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Author: FigTreeJohn Author Host/IP: 207.200.116.132 |
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Date Posted: 20:42:18 02/17/06 Fri In reply to: Mike Norrod 's message, "Re: Family Breeding Developed" on 08:38:58 02/15/06 Wed >>>Well since you are not posting as Jake Wilder and now >>>using your regular handle and not the many you used >>>like on pedigrees-online I can address it person to >>>person John. >> >>**** Oh really now? > >Yes, as you knew I wasn't on Pedigree online to >respond to your posts. Or here for awhile but now I >can... ***** Didn't know that. > >>>Unless you did the breeding you don't know how a dog >>>is truly bred. I know of people who had their female >>>covered by another dog and wasn't aware of it and >they >>>had control of the female! >> >>**** I agree. But it don't happen in my breeding and >>won't. I breed in my own yard to my own stock, no >>help, no stud fee, no shipping or going across the >>street. > >Okay but lets stick to what you first said about >starting with the dogs you think are truly bred that >way. ***** No maybe about it or wishful thinking. Over the years I have developed proper contacts to ensure I get what I want. This is what I was responding too. I agree, I >never let my female leave my sight. I know a female >can take be more then one male and have two different >litters inside her. >Often in the pass I had people try to create doubt >about a litter I had. Maximilian and Gr. Ch. Joey >breeding for example. You wouldn't believe how many >people tried to create doubt but I knew for fact >because I never left my female. I knew without any >doubts because until the female came out of heat, he >never left my sight. I also took pictures or video >recorded it. > >>>So you think starting a family of dogs is done this >>>way? >> >>**** Buy a star bitch from a star family and breed to >>the best stud you can find, no matter the expense. Do >>this with a long standing person of honesty and proven >>reputation in all dealings [rare find]. Selection / >>Elimination. > >But until you have raised and culled the whole litter >and provide them, you are still going on another >person word as far as breeding even if you saw the >female prove herself and hopefully before you breed to >that star stud you watch him prove himself. > >As far as a star goes, >it only is, if you see it when it is shining! Thats true, when you first begin a breeding goal. I have my dogs in place to continue a honest well thought out breeding program that will take a few years to say the least. > >>>First off, not knowing for sure but only believing >the >>>dogs which are bred are truly bred that way, you >>>should have kept all 10! >> >>**** I did. > >I stand corrected. I thought you said you farmed out >only 6. So I must assume now you kept the other 4? ***** 4 are with me, 6 are in-house [very close family] > > >>>Culled the dogs for whatever purpose you bred them >for >>>then improve on the quality if need be. >> >>**** I agree and doing that. >> >>>If not, go out prove the line of dogs in the field >for >>>which the purpose they were bred for! >> >>**** Certainly an option. > >No, never an option, it is a fact. You truly can't >expect to produce top quality dogs and they never were >proven for the purpose they were bred for! ***** Thats true, but still an option. > >>>After 4 or 5 generations of proving top quality dogs >>>in their field for which they are bred for, then you >>>have a proven bloodline. >> >>**** Sometimes. > >Well how can they not be???? They are proven dogs! >From a line of dogs you bred. >All the rest is just talk and hype and wishful >thinking. ***** Ratio of success v failure > >>>Not living and selling off what others have done to >>>bring the dogs which a person owns to the point for >>>which they are claiming the elite. >> >>**** I may be many things to many folks, but not the >>above. > >Why do you think this was solely direct to you, that >you did this? ***** Because you are talking to me? If the shoe fits or maybe in the back of >your mind it might? ***** Not my size and no room in back of my mind for that idea. >But since we are on that subject, one could make the >argument of your association OFBA and your pass posts. ***** OFBA is not an argument for me. I still have a nice number of dogs bred down off COPPERHEAD via WILDER'S RED SATAN. I am using them for a purpose. My pass post could be confusing. Its better to talk with me. > >I.M. FigTreeJohn [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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| Re: Family Breeding Developed | Mike Norrod (67.177.152.140) | 13:35:40 02/19/06 Sun |