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Date Posted: 19:46:30 03/04/06 Sat In reply to: Mike Norrod 's message, "Re: FTJ" on 09:38:36 03/04/06 Sat >>The biggest surprise to me is how so many people can >>reach speculative conclusions on pedigrees and facts >>regarding the Red Nose Family that was popular with >>Hemphill and Wallace. Those dogs were heavy Lightner / >>Colby. Tracing back to Harvey's Red Devil, Ferguson's >>Centipede and Lightner's Vick. I have repeated this >>combination of dogs over and over again. But I see it >>makes no difference. >>Today's Red Nose with its various strains are based on >>other lines. Many are scattered bred and unrelated to >>the dogs I mentioned. >>Have it your way Mike. That's how you think and many >>accept that. Anyway we all have to wait on something, >>but I won't be waiting to see who is right or wrong. >>That's not an issue with me. > >Your problem, you just posted John. >You think only Hemphill and Wallace were the only ones >who had OFRN. They weren't. >You think only Lightner had the Old Family Reds from >Ireland. He was only one who imported them, he wasn't! > >BTW, since when, has Colby ever been a line of OFRN? > >Talk about trying to change history, you are not >implying Colby line of dogs as Irish line, are you? >The old English descendant John P. would be rolling >over in his grave! > >Colby never like red nose dogs or the Irish dogs. >Joesph Colby, John P.'s son, who wrote the Colby book >back in 1936, I do believe he said the only red nose >dog ever bred into the Colby line was Galtie after 30 >years of family breeding. This was only done to add a >little cross to the family. I could be wrong on who >wrote it. It could have been Stratton but I know it >has never been in dispute. > >"Those dogs were heavy Lightner / >>Colby. Tracing back to Harvey's Red Devil, Ferguson's >>Centipede and Lightner's Vick. I have repeated this >>combination of dogs over and over again. But I see it >>makes no difference." > >You conceded arrogant ass, do you really believe you >can repeat this quality of dogs from your unproven >misrepresented stock? > >Every post you make sounds like a sales hype trying to >justify something you are peddling. >Give it up John. > >Just do it.... > >P.S. The bloodlines known as a Colby/Lightner cross >were called: NEBLETT! OR HETRICK! Like I said Mike. It is not a matter of who is right or wrong. I think its more of what people want to believe. Your insults indicate to me that my conversations with you will never get anywhere unless I buy a NORROD DOG. That will never happen. Nice dogs, but not what I am looking for in a bulldog. Colby's Topsy was bred to Masterson's Jack, producing Lightner's Vick. What happened many years after that would be very obvious to any observer, the lines shifted through out crosses, creating a breeding away from cleaner Red Nose Family based on the imports, not just dogs from Ireland. The dogs bred here in the states are the Red Nose Dogs I am referring to. They do not exist in the same form or genetic structure simple because they were not preserved over a period of time to keep the line ripe. Those "OFRN" do not exist today, no matter what color you make them. They have been thoroughly bred away....I have not seen a single pedigree with Bob Hemphill's signature on it nor Bob Wallace. How anyone could call their dog Hemphill So So is beyond me and a form of mockery. FTJ REALDOGS PS: I do not have anything to sale through the internet or e bay. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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| Re: FTJ | Mike Norrod (67.177.152.140) | 11:34:33 03/05/06 Sun |
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