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Subject: Re: snippets from the hard copy universal reconciliation library of Rodger Tutt Author: Rodger Tutt (focused) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 08:01:18 06/04/14 Wed In reply to: Rodger Tutt 's message, "snippets from the hard copy universal reconciliation library of Rodger Tutt" on 17:39:17 03/26/12 Mon FROM THE DOCUMENTS OF RODGER TUTT #3 GRACE OVERWHELMS What I perceive to be a basic issue. People who don't think salvation is 100% by God, not just 100% “provided” by God like to be in the hands of their own "free" will. That is where they feel most secure. IMO, that is a basic difference between ETers and URs. Just like in the case of Lydia (whose heart the Lord opened, Acts 16:14) and Saul of Tarsus (Acts 9:1-8), our cooperation to be saved is the result, not the cause, of God laying hold on us by His sovereign grace and causing Jesus to be "choice" in our heart. The timing of the salvation of everyone is under God's sovereign control, some sooner, the rest later. HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE - James Coram CHOOSING WHAT IS CHOICE biblical studies: His Achievement Are We - Part 9 - Choosing What Is Choice http://www.concordant.org/expohtml/HisAchievement/HisAchievement009.html "No one to whom Christ is not yet choice can choose Christ. And Christ cannot be choice to anyone to whom He has not yet been made choice. When He is made choice He becomes choice and so is choice; or to say the same thing, He is chosen. This first act of the believer in which Christ is consciously chosen, is merely a consequence of his new mental preference which has been graciously granted to him by God." [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: snippets from the hard copy universal reconciliation library of Rodger Tutt Author: Rodger Tutt (focused) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:35:11 06/07/14 Sat FROM THE DOCUMENTS OF RODGER TUTT #4 ARMINIAN ETERNAL TORMENT BELIEF VERSUS CALVINIST ETERNAL TORMENT BELIEF ARMINIAN ET BELIEF - It's as if God says “Unless you are lucky enough to find out about my son during this lifetime, and even if you are that lucky, if you don’t have the good sense to cooperate with my son properly before you die, then I am going to raise you from the dead and I will sustain you alive in an inescapable state of eternal torment forever.” Christ's apparent mission: To save from eternal torment only those who are lucky enough to hear about Jesus before they die, and also are smart enough to properly cooperate with Him before they die. CALVINIST ET BELIEF - It's as if God says "Since there is nothing you can do about it because you are totally depraved and you are not one of the elect, it is obvious that I created most of you for the purpose of torturing you forever. However, I am going to choose a few of you to go to heaven where you will be happy forever." Christ's apparent mission: To let everyone suffer eternal torment without any say in the matter, except the few He rescues by His irresistible grace. Robert Southy (1774 -1843) wrote, “In the worst and bloodiest idolatry that ever defiled the earth, there is nothing so horrid, so monstrous, and so impious as Calvinism.” UNIVERSAL RECONCILIATION BELIEF (mine) – God says “Sooner or later, because of what Christ accomplished by His death and resurrection, I am going to save all of you from everything from which you need to be saved, including your stubborn will.” Christ's scriptural mission: 'And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world' (1John 4:14). I worship a Jesus Who will be completely successful in accomplishing the reason why His Father sent Him. Christ was prophesied to take away the sin of the world (Jn. 1:29), so how then can a sinless world suffer everlasting punishment in the lake of fire?! How absurd! Christ is the Saviour of the world (Jn. 4:42; 1Jn. 4:14), and He will save it!" My advice, don't put your faith in your faith. Your faith may, and probably will be misplaced from time to time, especially if you are having faith in your self. Put your faith in Jesus Christ instead, because even if He casts you into the lake of fire which is the second death it will include the age-during corrective chastisement that He has promised to everyone who needs it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]