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Date Posted: 21:30:39 04/21/02 Sun
Author: scott s.
Subject: Re: "Edited" Closing Credits
In reply to: Brian Bell 's message, "Re: "Edited" Closing Credits" on 14:08:04 04/21/02 Sun

>This is very odd that they would do this to the
>closing credits. I personally don't feel like the
>show is over until the theme has played out, but I've
>always wondered why they would have such a long theme
>on the end?

as an option for stations to fill with. looking at some of the cue sheets for the watermark days, the end part says "theme to 58:50" with a local avail :60 then :10 sec ID to the top of the hour. but what if you don't have a local avail? simple, let the theme bed run. rather have too much theme then too little because one can always fade the thing and sweep into the ID, liner, whatever.

Was the intention for stations to talk
>over it and promote upcoming things, or what?

mosts stations with live ops fade the show to time out to where they want it. theme is fill music until they don't need it anymore usually. beats dead air.


I
>remember on the final set of jingles for Shadoe the
>show pretty much ended after "...bye bye out there."
>But the Casey's Top 40 bed was very long, and I have
>never heard a sation talk over the bed.

the casey bed ran about 1:37 on average after casey's end cue (I timed it a few times!!) more then enough to fill with. one 70's show I have runs the full shuckatoom theme (2:30) and makes a note of it on the cues. again, the only reason that makes sense it to have too much so the local board op can fade if necessary, if not, let it run.


>Also, I remember one station I used to listen to back
>the 80s would have the countdown starting at 6pm and
>end around 9:30, they must not have been able to sell
>any time.

probably. maybe it was the second running??? I know a station that ran the show saturday night/sunday morning...no commericals...second run of the show mid-3:30 am...they actually dubbed the shadoe CD's to VHS HIFI tapes, so the jock getting off at midnight pressed play and took off and let it run til assumingly the next guy came in. that's so obsolete now with computers


>KIIS-Fm here in Chicago, since it is automated for the
>most part, plays the entire theme on the show. But
>today I noticed they messed up the top of the hour
>sweep, I hate when stations do that.

automation is only as good as the music scheduling software and the person using it. a lot of it is still done by a human and when you are doing logs for one station (or more) 7 days a week, and maybe more work (tis the days of multitasking!!) things do fall through the cracks. there are a lot of people in this biz that are overworked and underpaid. corporate radio is all about the bottom line these days. replacing people with computers only makes more work for the people still there.

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