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Subject: Re: Hmm you did not have good enough credit to get a card before they started giving cash back .


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Oropan
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Date Posted: 12:03:44 11/11/07 Sun
In reply to: Bev 's message, "Hmm you did not have good enough credit to get a card before they started giving cash back ." on 14:08:54 11/09/07 Fri

"a tax code that has become hideously biased in favor of the rich"
What a bunch of crap!!! The top 1% of income earners pay 30+% of the tax bill and the bottom 40% of income earners pay ZERO!....that's supposed to be biased in favor of the rich????????????????????????????????????






>just teasing however credit card co have not always
>given cash back .
>
> Here is a article from vanity fair stating as many on
>this board have maintained that future generations
>will pay for the bush and rep congress excess of the
>past years.
>
>Reckoning
>The Economic Consequences of Mr. Bush
>The next president will have to deal with yet another
>crippling legacy of George W. Bush: the economy. A
>Nobel laureate, Joseph E. Stiglitz, sees a
>generation-long struggle to recoup.
>by Joseph E. Stiglitz December 2007 The American
>economy can take a lot of abuse, but no economy is
>invincible. Illustration by Edward Sorel.
>When we look back someday at the catastrophe that was
>the Bush administration, we will think of many things:
>the tragedy of the Iraq war, the shame of Guantánamo
>and Abu Ghraib, the erosion of civil liberties. The
>damage done to the American economy does not make
>front-page headlines every day, but the repercussions
>will be felt beyond the lifetime of anyone reading
>this page.
>
>I can hear an irritated counterthrust already. The
>president has not driven the United States into a
>recession during his almost seven years in office.
>Unemployment stands at a respectable 4.6 percent.
>Well, fine. But the other side of the ledger groans
>with distress: a tax code that has become hideously
>biased in favor of the rich; a national debt that will
>probably have grown 70 percent by the time this
>president leaves Washington; a swelling cascade of
>mortgage defaults; a record near-$850 billion trade
>deficit; oil prices that are higher than they have
>ever been; and a dollar so weak that for an American
>to buy a cup of coffee in London or Paris—or even the
>Yukon—becomes a venture in high finance.
>
>And it gets worse. After almost seven years of this
>president, the United States is less prepared than
>ever to face the future. We have not been educating
>enough engineers and scientists, people with the
>skills we will need to compete with China and India.
>We have not been investing in the kinds of basic
>research that made us the technological powerhouse of
>the late 20th century. And although the president now
>understands—or so he says—that we must begin to wean
>ourselves from oil and coal, we have on his watch
>become more deeply dependent on both.
>
>Up to now, the conventional wisdom has been that
>Herbert Hoover, whose policies aggravated the Great
>Depression, is the odds-on claimant for the mantle
>“worst president” when it comes to stewardship of the
>American economy. Once Franklin Roosevelt assumed
>office and reversed Hoover’s policies, the country
>began to recover. The economic effects of Bush’s
>presidency are more insidious than those of Hoover,
>harder to reverse, and likely to be longer-lasting.
>There is no threat of America’s being displaced from
>its position as the world’s richest economy. But our
>grandchildren will still be living with, and
>struggling with, the economic consequences of Mr. Bush.
>
>Remember the Surplus?
>The world was a very different place, economically
>speaking, when George W. Bush took office, in January
>2001. During the Roaring 90s, many had believed that
>the Internet would transform everything. Productivity
>gains, which had averaged about 1.5 percent a year
>from the early 1970s through the early 90s, now
>approached 3 percent. During Bill Clinton’s second
>term, gains in manufacturing productivity sometimes
>even surpassed 6 percent. The Federal Reserve
>chairman, Alan Greenspan, spoke of a New Economy
>marked by continued productivity gains as the Internet
>buried the old ways of doing business. Others went so
>far as to predict an end to the business cycle.
>Greenspan worried aloud about how he’d ever be able to
>manage monetary policy once the nation’s debt was
>fully paid off.
>
>This tremendous confidence took the Dow Jones index
>higher and higher. The rich did well, but so did the
>not-so-rich and even the downright poor. The Clinton
>years were not an economic Nirvana; as chairman of the
>president’s Council of Economic Advisers during part
>of this time, I’m all too aware of mistakes and lost
>opportunities. The global-trade agreements we pushed
>through were often unfair to developing countries. We
>should have invested more in infrastructure, tightened
>regulation of the securities markets, and taken
>additional steps to promote energy conservation. We
>fell short because of politics and lack of money—and
>also, frankly, because special interests sometimes
>shaped the agenda more than they should have. But
>these boom years were the first time since Jimmy
>Carter that the deficit was under control. And they
>were the first time since the 1970s that incomes at
>the bottom grew faster than those at the top—a
>benchmark worth celebrating.
>
>By the time George W. Bush was sworn in, parts of this
>bright picture had begun to dim. The tech boom was
>over. The nasdaq fell 15 percent in the single month
>of April 2000, and no one knew for sure what effect
>the collapse of the Internet bubble would have on the
>real economy. It was a moment ripe for Keynesian
>economics, a time to prime the pump by spending more
>money on education, technology, and infrastructure—all
>of which America desperately needed, and still does,
>but which the Clinton administration had postponed in
>its relentless drive to eliminate the deficit. Bill
>Clinton had left President Bush in an ideal position
>to pursue such policies. Remember the presidential
>debates in 2000 between Al Gore and George Bush, and
>how the two men argued over how to spend America’s
>anticipated $2.2 trillion budget surplus? The country
>could well have afforded to ramp up domestic
>investment in key areas. In fact, doing so would have
>staved off recession in the short run while spurring
>growth in the long run.
>
>But the Bush administration had its own ideas. The
>first major economic initiative pursued by the
>president was a massive tax cut for the rich, enacted
>in June of 2001. Those with incomes over a million got
>a tax cut of $18,000—more than 30 times larger than
>the cut received by the average American. The
>inequities were compounded by a second tax cut, in
>2003, this one skewed even more heavily toward the
>rich. Together these tax cuts, when fully implemented
>and if made permanent, mean that in 2012 the average
>reduction for an American in the bottom 20 percent
>will be a scant $45, while those with incomes of more
>than $1 million will see their tax bills reduced by an
>average of $162,000.
>
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