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Subject: Re: New cliimate treaty meetings .


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billvon
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Date Posted: 10:18:22 12/10/07 Mon
In reply to: Duncan7 's message, "Re: New cliimate treaty meetings ." on 22:40:09 12/06/07 Thu

>So, are you happy with their progress?

Who's "they?" Car companies? US car companies - no. They're still doing a pretty bad job overall. They have some good ideas in the pipeline. The new CAFE laws will bring those ideas from car shows onto the streets.

>I don't see how
>you can be. just because this loophole or that is
>created that doesn't mean people have to take
>advantage of it.

Nonsense. If there's a loophole in the tax law that lets you legally pay $5000 less tax - will you take it? Or will you "not take advantage" of the system?

>It's people who create these markets.
>manufacturers wouldn't make them if there wasn't
>profit in it. You can have all the meetings and
>treaties you want, but if money isn't being made in
>the process your system is faulty.

That is EXACTLY right. You have to set up a system in which car companies can make money by building cars people will buy. Which is what CAFE does.


>If you aren't supported by
>the vast majority of the population your doomed to
>failure.

Yep - and the majority of the population is now aware that global warming is a problem we have to deal with.

>You can say what you want about my choices
>but the truth is i'm outside what others do and have
>gotten the job done already. It didn't take a meeting
>or debate. It took an evaluation of what i was going
>to need to satisfy my demand and that is where your
>failing.

What are you talking about?

>You haven't even begun the evaluation of your
>projected requirements in any realistic manner. Just a
>bunch of claims and unrealistic targets. You deal in
>absolutes. Good luck with that.

It's worked for me. I generate more electricity than I use.

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