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Subject: Come on now bev....


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Stephen
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Date Posted: 15:41:56 03/16/08 Sun
In reply to: Bev 's message, "More on banks possibly going down ." on 12:07:32 03/16/08 Sun

Duncan7 says it's all our fault for buying Sony Playstations. lol

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>After Bear Stearns, others could be at risk
>Investors nervous after Fed-backed bailout; Lehman
>stock falls 14 percent
>
> Bear Stearns bailout
>March 14: After facing a severe cash shortage, Wall
>Street giant Bear Stearns will rely on JPMorgan Chase
>to stay afloat, making investors nervous about the
>country's financial outlook. CNBC's Carl Quintanilla
>reports.
>
>updated 4:32 p.m. PT, Fri., March. 14, 2008
>NEW YORK - After Bear Stearns Cos. said Friday it will
>have to borrow money through JPMorgan Chase & Co.,
>backed by the New York Federal Reserve, investors are
>curious: What does this mean for other banks, and who
>might be next?
>
>Q: Is this going to happen to other investment banks?
>
>A: Nobody knows for sure, but it could. Until proven
>otherwise, the market will probably act as if there
>are more near-collapses to come — just as it did on
>Friday, when investors sold off their bank holdings
>and sent the Dow Jones industrial average down 200
>points.
>
>
>"Even though Bear was probably on the fringe, pushing
>the envelope anyway, traders are saying that because
>it happened, it could happen to somebody else," said
>Brandon Thomas, chief investment officer for Portfolio
>Management Consultants, the investment arm of
>Envestnet.
>
>Which other institutions might need funding?
>
>Bear Stearns has been the weakling among the five
>reigning Wall Street investment banks: Bear, Merrill
>Lynch, Morgan Stanley, Lehman Brothers and Goldman
>Sachs. Many market watchers will recall that last
>spring, Bear was the first of these institutions to
>reveal big problems with mortgage-linked debt when it
>had to pump cash into two hemorrhaging hedge funds.
>
>Also, Bear is the smallest of the five big investment
>banks, the least diversified, and the biggest issuer
>of mortgage-backed securities.
>
>But Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. appears to be an
>investment bank that investors are very worried about
>right now — mainly because it is the investment bank
>that is most similar to Bear in structure and
>exposure. Its stock dropped more than 14 percent on
>Friday.
>
>Banks gave Lehman a vote of confidence of sorts,
>however, on Friday — Lehman Brothers said its new
>credit facility was "substantially oversubscribed,"
>and that some of world's largest banks participated.
>
>Other banks certainly have their own troubles —
>Merrill Lynch, for one, wrote down more than $14
>billion in the fourth quarter as the value of bonds
>and debt backed by souring mortgages fell.
>
>However, "there's not the same questioning of their
>franchise. It's not anyone saying, what are they going
>to do for a living next year," said Tanya Azarchs, S&P
>banking analyst. "At the same time, though ... the
>markets are very nervous, very skittish. Asset prices
>are very volatile. The repo markets are very tight,
>very illiquid. When the repo markets are illiquid,
>things can get very unpredictable."
>
>The repo, or repurchase, markets are temporary loan
>markets that are relied upon by banks, hedge funds and
>other investors to invest their extra money or borrow
>against collateral.
>
>What will happen to Bear Stearns?
>
>Few industry experts believe the 28-day loan will be
>enough for Bear to become liquid on its own again —
>most are viewing it as delaying tactic as Bear and the
>Fed figure out how to proceed.
>
>It is possible Bear will be bought, perhaps by
>JPMorgan. If that happens, the buyer would have to
>take over Bear Stearns' $176 billion worth of
>distressed securities and its $42 billion in loans —
>not a rosy prospect for even a healthy bank.
>Furthermore, there are regulatory issues that may
>arise if a commercial bank wants to buy Bear's
>troubled assets.
>
>Another scenario is that the Fed attempts to organize
>an orderly winding down of Bear Stearns into a much
>smaller company by selling off its assets.
>
>How is Bear's loan different than other steps troubled
>financial institutions have taken?
>
>Bear Stearns is not the first company to seek out cash
>— Citigroup Inc., Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley
>have pulled in several billion dollars by selling
>stakes to outside investors, including foreign
>governments, while the bond insurer MBIA Inc. sold a
>significant stake in itself to JPMorgan, Lehman and
>other investors.
>
>But Bear Stearns' agreement with JPMorgan is not a
>stake sale — it's financing planned and backed by the
>U.S. government.
>
>Why can't the Fed just let Bear Stearns collapse?
>
>Typically the Federal Reserve bails out struggling
>commercial banks, but because Bear Stearns is
>inextricably linked to a huge number of institutions,
>a failure could cause "a ripple effect," said Ali
>Samad-Khan, head of operational risk management
>consulting for the Enterprise Risk Management practice
>at Towers Perrin.
>"They probably fall into the too-big-to-fail
>category," he said. "The fact is, they recognized that
>this is an important enough issue for them to get
>involved in."
>
>Bear Stearns is interconnected with other banks, hedge
>funds and investors that are its "counterparties."
>Essentially, if Bear can't meet obligations to these
>counterparties, those counterparties will lose their
>money.
>
>Big banks like Citigroup Inc. could see big losses but
>are probably large and diversified enough to survive
>them. But smaller players on the edges — particularly
>hedge funds — are at risk of going under if Bear can't
>repay them. A Carlyle Group fund has already said it
>is near collapse. Failing hedge funds could be another
>hit to major banks, who have lent huge amounts of
>money to the funds.

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What ever happened to the lending institutions checking to see if people could make their house pmts .Bev21:19:49 03/16/08 Sun


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