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Date Posted: 15:54:25 04/26/07 Thu In reply to: Bev 's message, "Both the house and senate have passed bills for funding the troops" on 15:32:14 04/26/07 Thu It's going nowhere! > Now will bush undermine our troops by a veto. He says >he will shame on him to send the people to fight for >him and then not funding by his veto. THis is the same >kind of junk he has pulled with the vets. says he is >behind them and then not giving enough money to cover >thier care. Will bush once again go against the will >of by far the majority of US taxpayers. > > >href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/26/congress.i >raq/index.html">http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/26/ >congress.iraq/index.html >Senate passes Iraq withdrawal bill; veto threat looms >POSTED: 5:06 p.m. EDT, April 26, 2007 >• >: >WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush is warming up his >veto muscles after the Senate passed a war funding >bill Thursday that sets a deadline for withdrawal of >U.S. combat forces from Iraq by next April. > >The 51 votes cast for the bill are nowhere near the 67 >needed to override a veto, which Bush says he will >deliver swiftly. The House passed the same measure on >a 218-208 vote Wednesday night. > >Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, said the >measure funds U.S. troops in the field while >acknowledging that the four-year-old war needs a >political, not military, solution. > >"No one wants this nation to succeed in the Middle >East more than I do," Reid said. "But I know that >after four years of mismanagement and incompetence by >this administration in the war in Iraq, there is no >magic formula, no silver bullet that will lead us to >the victory we all desire." > >But Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said demanding a >withdrawal while U.S. commanders are claiming progress >in pacifying the Iraqi capital would hand a victory to >the al Qaeda terrorist network, which has taken root >in Iraq. (Watch Republicans tell what would fix the >bill ) > >"We must give the plan for winning the military >component of the war in Iraq a real chance to >succeed," said McConnell, R-Kentucky. "Without it, >there is no political solution." > >Thursday's vote was 51-46. Republican Sens. Chuck >Hagel of Nebraska and Gordon Smith of Oregon joined >Democrats in supporting the bill. Connecticut >independent Joe Lieberman, who caucuses with the >Democrats, voted with Republicans opposing it. > >Two supporters of Bush's Iraq policy -- Republican >Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of >South Carolina -- did not vote. Sen. Tim Johnson, >D-South Dakota, who is recovering from a brain >hemorrhage, also didn't vote. > >The White House quickly denounced the outcome. > >"The Senate has now joined the House in passing >defeatist legislation that insists on a date for >surrender, micromanages our commanders and generals in >combat zones from 6,000 miles away, and adds billions >of dollars in unrelated spending," White House >spokeswoman Dan Perino said. > >Senators make their cases >Before the vote, Lieberman condemned the bill -- which >he said laid out "a strategy based on catchphrases and >bromides rather than military realities" -- as a >guarantee of failure in the war in Iraq. (Watch >Senators argue for and against the bill ) > >"In my opinion, Iraq is not yet lost," Lieberman said, >countering a remark to the contrary Reid made last >week. "But if we follow the plan in this legislation, >it will be lost and so, I fear, will much of our hope >for stability in the Mideast." > >Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, argued before the >vote that continuing the war defies the will of the >American people and that the U.S. military "should not >police Iraq's civil war indefinitely." > >He defended the deadline to withdraw troops, calling >it "the only realistic way to encourage the Iraqis to >take responsibility for their future." > >Recent polls show the war is now widely unpopular at >home, with a majority of Americans favoring withdrawal. > >"We hope the president will reconsider his >stubbornness and his refusal to listen to the American >people," Reid said. > >But Reid's deputy, Majority Whip Dick Durbin, said >that Bush's veto was a foregone conclusion, and the >bill would be sent to the president's desk Monday or >Tuesday. Durbin said Democrats would test the waters >for any "dialogue" or "conversation" with Bush about a >new spending bill. > >Durbin said a new bill would be less "decisive" than >the one passed Thursday, but he said its call for a >withdrawal of U.S. combat forces could be attached to >other bills -- such as the upcoming Pentagon budget or >a defense policy bill. > >About $100 billion of the $124 billion goes to fund >the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Most of that would >go to Iraq, which Pentagon officials say is costing >the U.S. military about $2 billion a week. It comes on >top of $70 billion Congress has already approved for >the current budget year. > >The 218-208 House vote Wednesday night, largely along >party lines, was well short of the 290 yeas needed to >trump Bush. Two Republicans voted for the bill, while >13 Democrats voted it down. (Watch how the battle >between Congress and Bush is nearing a climax ) > >The Pentagon has said it can fund the war through >June. Without the additional appropriations, the >Pentagon will have to begin shifting money and >deferring projects to find the funds to continue the >wars. > >General: Effort may get harder first >Before Wednesday's vote, Lt. Gen. David Petraeus went >to a series of private briefings on Capitol Hill, >during which he argued against setting a timetable, >according to both Democratic and Republican lawmakers >who attended. > >Petraeus, the top commander in Iraq, spoke to >reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday about the >briefing he gave to Congress. > >As the U.S. military continues to administer its new >security plan, troops will be moving into uncharted >neighborhoods and there is a "very real possibility" >that more U.S. casualties could ensue, Petraeus said. > >"This effort may get harder before it gets easier," he >said. > >However, there is a "sense of incremental progress" in >many areas that's often overshadowed by the >"sensational attacks" exacted by the insurgents, >Petraeus said. > >Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wisconsin, said Thursday that >Congress is using "the power of the purse" to end the >war and compared the maneuver to how Congress ended >U.S. involvement in Somalia in 1994. > >"When the mission ends, the funding ends, and that's >perfectly reasonable," Feingold said. "Gen. Petraeus >will have the funding as long as we feel there should >be a mission there, but there shouldn't be a mission >there anymore by the end of next March." [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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| Its a crying shame that only 28 percent of the people support the war and still | Bev | 17:11:10 04/26/07 Thu |
| Well the bush war is going nowhere . THis is what happens | Bev | 17:57:45 04/26/07 Thu |
| And bushies wife and mother are in the same catagory he is . | Bev | 18:02:03 04/26/07 Thu |
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