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Subject: Re: It appears motor cycles pollute more per mile than many other vehicles

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Duncan7

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Date Posted: 22:04:49 04/10/07 Tue
In reply to: Oropan 's message, "Re: It appears motor cycles pollute more per mile than many other vehicles" on 11:29:39 04/10/07 Tue

Good one. Not to mention as of this year there are more motorcycles produced with EFI and alot of pollution controls. Just more ignorance from the Queen liberal.

>I used to have a motorscooter and it got over 100MPG.
>I doubt there are any cars that get that kind of
>mileage. So will someone tell me how a motorscooter
>that burns one gallon of gas in over 100 miles is
>putting more crap into the air than a car that burns a
>gallon of gas in 30 or 40 miles. Is the burning more
>complete in the car? And even if it is, you still have
>to be producing more carbon. I guess we all need to
>throw out our lawnmowers while we are at it. Any of
>you people got hay fever??
>BTW, I always wondered how many tens of thousands of
>acres of carbon eating green space is trampeled to
>dirt by all those Seirra Klub members hiking around
>the Wilderness. And that's not counting the millions
>of trees that have to be cut to make the paper for all
>the crap they send out to me in the form of action
>alerts.
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>> I got this from another board.
>>
>>'Motorcycles: Green or Obscene?' - "Park that beast
>>and buy a Ford Explorer for Gaia's sake!"
>> In case you should be thinking what I was...
>>
>>I will need new wheels soon. I was considering a
>>motorcycle for gas mileage reasons, but no more. Not
>>only do they do a relatively poor job on that front
>>but they are apparently big pollution machines, as
>>well.
>>
>>No bike for me.
>>
>> >>href="http://www.evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=260">
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>>ttp://www.evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=260
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>>Finally, after several exchanges with the EPA, I was
>>contacted by someone who knew the answers. His name is
>>Robert French. He works in the EPA. Rob confirmed my
>>worst fears about motorcycle emissions. The statistics
>>he provided are somewhat daunting for a layman, and he
>>hastens to caution that the information he shares is
>>not official EPAspeak. In short, he told me that, "In
>>fact, motorcycles produce more harmful emissions than
>>driving a car, or even a large SUV."
>>
>>I asked Robert to compare a motorcycle with the Hybrid
>>Toyota Prius. He wrote:Consider that the cleanest
>>motorcycles in the 2001 model year certified at a
>>level of about 0.32 grams/mile of hydrocarbons on the
>>Federal Test Procedure. On the exact same test
>>procedure the Prius certified at a hydrocarbon level
>>of 0.0024 grams/mile. The cleanest (highway)
>>motorcycle is therefore more than 100 times dirtier
>>than the Prius. Said another way, you could drive the
>>Prius for more than 100 miles before you got to the
>>same hydrocarbon levels the motorcycle would emit in
>>only 1 mile of driving.
>>
>>There is a Prius parked in my driveway as I write.
>>I've been driving it for two weeks now. Every time I
>>see a person on a scooter or motorcycle now, I wonder
>>if he thinks he is doing the environment a favor. I am
>>tempted to shout the truth out the window to him,
>>"Park that beast and buy a Ford Explorer for Gaia's
>>sake!"
>>
>>What still amazes me is how hard it was to find out
>>the dirty truth about the motorized two-wheeled world.
>>While I hate to spoil anyone's fun, I think folks
>>should know that motorcycles are not green machines,
>>but are rather, for our environment, obscene machines

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