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Date Posted: 20:17:27 11/08/02 Fri
Author: Wilbs
Author Host/IP: 208-58-250-35.s289.tnt1.nwhv.ct.dialup.rcn.com / 208.58.250.35
Subject: This is very difficult for me but I certainly will give it a shot
In reply to: Grumpy˛ 's message, "I can feel the appeal of the dark side - :) - but" on 00:17:35 11/02/02 Sat

Republicans believe in the elevation of man. It's not a "production and consumption" thing. I'm not sure I said that right, and I'm more than positive that Donk would find a way to try and say that was a lie. I only know what I think, and I didn't become a Republican because my parents made me. Actually, my dad was a union Democrat for a lot of years, until about 10 years ago. He's 72. The union was screwing the new guys, he changed his mind.

We are all very aware of what production and consumption does for the economy. God, without it, we'd still be ruled by Britain.

Is that not, along with our independence, and our need to live under our own terms, what has elevated us?

I am not Ivy League. Yes, I have a degree. My husband graduated from Sumner Memorial High School in Sullivan Maine, in 1965. That was pretty much it (education wise) for him. But he did take some tech courses when he got out of the service, learned to fix oil (and gas, but gas goes boom according to him, and he prefers not to work on that)furnaces.

I stayed home with our three kids for let's see . . . in January of 1973, I left work to have my first child. I did not go back to work (nor did I have my degree up to that point - you probably remember me getting it just maybe 3 years ago) until 1984, when my youngest was in school for at least 1/2 day.

It wasn't any kind of a comfortable thing then, we raised goats, chickens, and pigs, (although the pigs were more than too expensive when you consider what they ate) but we were probably happier than we have ever been. I can't tell you how much we looked forward to the goats giving birth every spring. God - I took them to the breeder in my CAR!!

I digress - but please, it has nothing to do with goods and services, or inanimate things. It has everything to do with independence and the spirit that takes us to find ways to take care of ourselves when we need to. It has everything to do with not asking anybody to take care of us because we don't want to "owe" anything. Maybe that's a New England thing???

Efficiency and production? This country has always been VERY good at it. We would rather work than be on the dole. Being on the dole creates a problem with self-image. But it breeds generation after generation of people who know no other way to live. I agree that there are times when people need help. But those are not the people who make it an art.

Sorry - this should have been shorter. I understand what you said above. But the impression is not what I see about what I belive.

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