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Date Posted: 13:03:25 10/13/04 Wed
Author: Joe
Subject: Re: Why is it so hard?
In reply to: Brian Karcher 's message, "Re: Why is it so hard?" on 12:40:31 10/13/04 Wed

>>Brian, do you think UBF has ANYTHING that it must
>>confess and repent of?
>
>No, not as an organization.


That about says it all about UBF, at least for me. The implication here is that UBF really has no serious problems, other than the problem of me and others "persecuting" them.


>Again, my claim is that if you have someone to
>reconcile with, do it. Don't sit around and wait for
>some apology. Be the first person to take the first
>step, humbly and with a sincere heart. Go to that
>person without demands and without malice and with a
>proper spirit.


Have you told the same to Paul Hong and others above you? Oh, and the UBF habit of blaming the victims doesn't exactly help with the reconciliation process.


>I will state this: If anyone has anything against me,
>and I have sinned, tell me and I will repent and
>reconcile the matter.


You're just doing your job, and we are doing ours, as our consciences dictate. An apology or lack of apology, acknowledgment of UBF's serious problems or lack of an acknowledgment of UBF's serious problems, if they come from you, realistically don't mean much to me. There are others from UBF who should be speaking to these issues, others higher on the UBF ladder, a mythical UBF Henry Kriete, if you will.

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  • Re: Why is it so hard? -- former, 13:04:41 10/13/04 Wed

  • Implications of What He is Saying -- former, 07:17:28 10/14/04 Thu


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