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Date Posted: 09:29:21 02/14/05 Mon
Author: Mike K.
Subject: Unchanging Change
In reply to: Sarah 's message, "Re: The Changing UBF" on 07:18:12 02/13/05 Sun

It is funny that you guys are so black and white.
Isn't that a bit black-and-white also?

UBF people are like the rest - they are sinners and they are trying to improve.

Mostly, trying to improve others though, something which clearly isn't the meaning of Christian life. "Discipling", aka "raising disciples" serves mostly the purpose of trying to improve others, right?
However, I'd just like to add I agree with Chris here: Bhuddists and Muslims are also sinners trying to improve. You're belittling the message of the Gospel, please tell Jesus that "they're just sinners trying to improve" about His words "The unbelievers and Tax collectors are also like that, be YOU therefore perfect as thine Heavenly Father"(Mt5:47.48) ...


Most of you here on this website cannot even agree to what you want from UBF.

Why should we agree? Some want an apology- let them have it!
Some want UBF to repent - let them have it!
Some want UBF to finally become a godly, accountable, responsible Christian ministry - let them have it!

Don't say "Because some want an apology and others want UBF to repent and some want UBF to become godly, that means UBF doesn't need to change" - this is probably the worst report you can give about UBF, because you're just nailing the coffin shut by factually claiming "UBF has missed the chance to be useful to God!"


That is in UBF and out of UBF, we are all sinners and we will make mistakes.
You've shot the Grand Prize! Because UBF can't do anything which people couldn't also do without UBF (sinning), UBF is a worthless waste of time, yielding no result other than making people "sinners trying to improve", which is why people long to find Christ in the first place, but faaaaaaaaaaar away from the reality of the Cross, where rest forgiven sinners no longer under the bondage of sin.

Thank you for exposing that UBF is still a colossal failure in terms of Christian mission by not even having leaders who have comprehended the message of the Gospel.

In Christ,
Mike K.

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