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Date Posted: 10:16:21 11/26/04 Fri
Author: Nick T.
Subject: going to Moody
In reply to: Chris 's message, "Re: I have been meaning to write" on 02:48:28 11/25/04 Thu

Hi Christian Man,

I had been in the ubf for almost 20 years, they were indeed very dark years. So many crimes and abuses were committed. Most of the perpetrators were ubfKoreans, and they have a very strange code of honor. It is not from the Bible, it is Confuciustic. They are all willing to lie, cheat and steal in order to advance the ubf. It is a disgrace to the gospel. In one case a young man had Sammule Lee and Ron Ward arrested for beating him with a baseball bat. But Ron Ward swore on the Bible to tell the truth, and then proceeded to lie. The judge threw the case out because ubf people lied or refused to testify. That is just one small incident, there were hundreds.

I really hope you can go to Moody. Do you have anything to do with Moody now? Do you know anything about the education they give there, which impacts churches throughout the whole world? Do you know the history of the Moody Bible Institute?

I encourage you to go to Moody. You will quickly, I mean very quickly realize two things.

First, what ubf call "Bible study" does not resemble any kind of study in a reputable Christian group. Not talking about doctrine here, as denominatons have doctrinal differences. I am saying that ubf does not follow the accepted rules of Bible study. If you are a fulltime student at Moody, you will realize this in probably one week.

Second, what ubf calls a 'missionary', does not resemble any kind of missionary in a reputable Christian group. Not talking about lifestyle here, as there are real layman missionaries. The point is the ubf missionary is totally unqualified to be a missionary. It has alot to do with the incredibly low quality of ubf 'Bible study'.

I would go so far as to say that a sophomore student at Moody is at least 10 times more qualified to be a Bible teacher than the most adept ubfmissionary. And as far as conduct and ethics, the Moody student is held to a Biblical standard, the ubfmissionary is held to a very low level Confucius standard. Confucius would be very ashamed of the conduct of the typical ubfKorean.


I used to defend ubfleaders, like you are doing. But I stopped, and decided to let them defend themselves. They never bothered to defend themselves, not because they are like Jesus, but because they don't care what anyone says. That is how corrupt they have become. They don't care what anyone says about them, as long as they can do whatever they want. They made the movement into a cult of their own personalities.

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