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Date Posted: 09:49:00 11/22/04 Mon
Author: Brother in Christ
Subject: Re: Can someone help Priscilla?
In reply to: Tom F 's message, "Can someone help Priscilla?" on 11:28:38 11/17/04 Wed

Hi Priscilla and whomever,

I am here just to report a fact, take it for whatever you feel it is worth. I am not sure if this is about your son or not, but this is what I heard. It may be coincidental but I immediatley thought of your son when i heard this, maybe you or someone could verfiy these facts.

I heard a story about a real shy boy who overcame himself through Bible study and now he is feeding three sheep and he is so fruitful he even gave away some sheep to others. He is a great man of God..etc etc.

These facts alone don't trouble me and i actually think it is great. What troubled me was the way this story started to circulate just as you posted about your concerns. This is typical UBF love bombing. Whenever someone has a problem with family or people telling them how wrong UBF teaching is, UBF puts on the charm to this confused child. They mention how great this child is and how strong he is.

This is very troubling to me because it is incorrect counseling. Instead of telling the troubled youth how to overcome through the grace of Jesus they try to pull him in to how great UBF is and has been for him. They try to show how he is great because he followed UBF ways.

Instead of helping the child to love his mother and help her to come to Jesus, they try to pull the child away from his family and deeper into UBF. Instead of counseling the child to reconcile with his mother or whoever, so that God's glory can be revealed, they pull him into UBF deeper and show how great he is because he follows UBF ways.

I would say don't panic. It may be a long hard road but you need to stay in your childs life. One day he will see through this fake love. One day when he does not bring 12 to the Christmas worship service and only brings 9 and gets rebuked and when nobody is there to help him, he will see just how fake their love is. It is this moment he needs a strong love from you, and a Christian love from you. He will see past all the other stuff and realize who really loves him.

This realization happened to me after about 5 years and now I really respect my mother and know who really cares about me.

I don't mean to panic anyone, maybe this i snot aboutyour child but i thought it very strange that this started to become UBF "ledgend" right after you posted.

>RSQUBF visitors:
>
>Can someone help Priscilla out? She lives in Evanston,
>IL, and her son Brendan, who is 18, has been a part of
>UBF for 2 years. She and I have been emailing back and
>forth, and she is really panicked about this and
>hurting. She is a widow for 9 years, and it seems to
>me as if she doesn't have anyone to turn to. She needs
>someone to lean on, to pray with, and to talk through
>this dire situation.
>
>As for Brendan, if he is reading this, he needs to
>recognize how he is impacting his mother negatively,
>and that he needs to see how UBF is pulling him away
>from his family. His mother desperately wants him out,
>fearing that he will choose UBF over his own family,
>which is a valid concern. 1 Timothy 5:8 says, "but if
>anyone does not care for their immediate family, they
>have denied the faith and are worse than an
>unbeliever." I hope that Brendan can see what kind of
>a witness he is being to his mother, and that he needs
>to re-evaluate what is really going on. Please pray
>for Priscilla and for Brendan, that their relationship
>may be preserved and that Brendan may leave UBF. If
>you want to contact her, please email me.
>
>Tom

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