VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 12345[6]78910 ]


[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 10:50:44 10/15/04 Fri
Author: Board Co-Admin
Subject: Re: Good bye
In reply to: Brian Karcher 's message, "Re: Good bye" on 09:32:25 10/15/04 Fri

but I am willing to participate in discussions, even heated discussions

The problem is that people here are not interested in discussions in themselves, nor are they interested in heated discussions, but in helpful, reasonable, open and honest discussions. You wasted a lot of our and your own time and Internet bandwith because you are not open to that. Therefore I think it is better for all us if we wait until you changed your mind and changed your style of deceptive communication.

We are not frustrated about the fact that you do not leave UBF. We are frustrated about how you are constantly trying to fool people including yourself.

And no, we will not email every affected person before we delete postings that are violating the rules. We have already stated before that we will do this without comment usually. We will not waste too much of our precious time with UBFers who are lacking insight and willingness to speak frankly. The rules are clear. If you would have sticked to the rules, or just used common sense and a reasonable and honest way of normal communication, you wouldn't have any problems with us.

But how can people here have a discussion about UBF practices and doctrines without someone from UBF participating in the discussions?

Silly question. Nearly all who are discussing here have been in UBF for years or even decades. They know the practices and doctrines very well, from their own experience. And you have not been banned because you are a UBF member, but for the reasons stated above. This is a personal problem of yours.

You know this ban is not absolute, and you know how to circumvent it anyway. If after some time you change your mind and want to make another honest attempt, this would be ok. If you make reasonable comments, they will not be deleted either. It does also not mean that we disregard you as a person. We just came to the conclusion that your contributions on this board wasted a lot of everybody's time because you are not open to face the truth and reality, you even claimed you are not here to defend UBF.

Please, take some time for self-examination, something you advocated so much in one of your postings. Then we can have another attempt.

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Post a message:
This forum requires an account to post.
[ Create Account ]
[ Login ]
[ Contact Forum Admin ]



Forum timezone: GMT-6
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.