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Date Posted: 11:28:57 07/12/04 Mon
Author: Joe
Subject: Re: Jesus Not Important in Toledo UBF
In reply to: Joe 's message, "Re: Jesus Not Important in Toledo UBF" on 12:03:21 07/08/04 Thu

>You get the impression that UBF doesn't know what kind
>of church or organization it wants to be. Instead of
>taking the name of Jesus with them wherever they go,
>they take the name of UBF, and their "world mission"
>seems to be about self-propagation, rather than
>propogating Jesus' name.

In fact, UBF has always wanted to be "more than christianity", "better than christianity", "beyond christianity", "super christianity", a "christian minority (*)", a "remnant". They have always derided "old Christians."

Sam Lee clearly expressed UBF's vision of "super-christianity" this way, "Believing in Jesus is not enough. Believing in Jesus is not enough. you must have a vision for yourself and your nation." Genesis 12:2 (yourself as blessing) is studied first and emphasized much more than John 3:16 (Christ as blessing).

(*) There is irony in the fact that UBF members want to be considered "fellow christians" but consider themselves to be a "minority" in Christianity.

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