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Date Posted: 01:33:10 07/15/04 Thu
Author: Chris
Subject: Re: Anne Kang's article
In reply to: WC 's message, "Anne Kang's article" on 20:14:36 07/12/04 Mon

The article was written by cult apologists (John Trott), who always operate under the name of "religious freedom" but often have concrete cults in mind they are actually supporting. The magazine is published by a group called "Jesus people USA" which itself is known to be an unhealthy group. EE and Barry started to make some friendship with this group because they had the same "enemy", the former (real) CAN.

See also the entry Cornerstone magazine in Apologetics.com.

The problem is that these cult and UBF defenders like Mr. Trott, the Passantinos, Miss Tucker never have been in UBF like an ordinary member, they don't know UBF from inside. Yet they dare to doubt the experience and testimonies of hundreds of dropouts. Nor did they experience cult dynamics and mind control being exercised on them in any other group. Therefore they don't understand what it is all about, plus they have ulterior motives to support and defend groups. Some are payed by cults, some simply like the appreciation and honor they use to get there, or they simply like to have an aberrant viewpoint. Maybe some may also honestly believe they do Christianity or religious freedom a favor.

They don't believe and discredit people like us or John who had seen UBF from inside. They also discredit people like Steven Hassan who talks about cult mind control and knows what he is talking about since he was in a cult (the Moonies).

There is another problem about these cult apologists particularly visible in that article: On the one side they deny that mind control aka "brainwashing" exists and is possible, not even over years in a controlling cult environment and supported by religious indoctrination ("if you don't follow us, you will be condemned by God"), on the other side they claim that secular deprogrammers are able to do this withing hours or days. The main line of their argumentation is inconsistent.

They not only speak "like a blind man speaks about color" (as we say in Germany), but their argumentation is also duplicitous.

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