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Date Posted: 12:28:54 07/26/04 Mon
Author: Nick T.
Subject: message is gone
In reply to: Joe 's message, "Re: How to handle "difficult sheep"" on 11:55:03 07/26/04 Mon

In keeping with the deceptive spirit of ubf, the message has been removed from Brain's website. That is more in line with the old ubf trick of pretending that there is no opposition, there is no dissension, there is no trouble at ubf.

This is very incorrect. ubf is very dangerous. ubf has an over abundance of very bad leaders, leaders who will abuse any recruit at any time. They do this because they are power mongers. They have become power mongers because no one has been able to hold them accountable for their bad behavior. If they were held accountable, they would stop their bad behaviors.

The NAE does not go aroud kicking out members. However, the NAE did not want to associate with unsavory characters like the ubf leadership. ubf leaders refuse to even respond to any NAE inquiry about their bad behaviors. ubf leaders ignored the inquiries fo rmany months until the NAE kicked out the ubf. The ubf has also been removed from the KCEN in Korea. This was due to their refusal to try to reconcile with the 'reform' group. ubf leaders voluntarily withdrew from the KCEN rather than reconcile.

These are very dangerous people, as Joe says they destroy families. I know, I am living it now.

To the parents who are examining the ubf: You are doing the best for your children. Don't give the ubf the benefit of any doubts, this is a very unhealthy and documented abusive group. Parents, please go the extra mile and help find your child a healthy Christian group to join up with. There are so many healthy groups out there. ubf has never been one of them.

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