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Subject: Re: Small Town Doctor


Author:
Leroy
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Date Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 04:04: am
In reply to: Kelly 's message, "Small Town Doctor" on Monday, August 03, 2009, 04:26: pm

Kelly, I think he is a little too old for an RT. It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't have to have an audience. Not only is he forced to flash other non-medical workers but also kids, girls his own age. He was obviously upset that he had to have it taken rectally because other kids his age don't, which is bad enough for his self-esteem. But to have it done right in front of those same kids must be traumatic. The little girl especially will not only tease him and brag to her friends that she saw his bum and maybe more, but now everyone will know that he is considered less mature than the other kids his age. How could you do that to him? What kind of parent are you?

Obviously the MA couldn't care less about his psychological well-being or his self-esteem, but you as his mother should care. How could you put him through that? At the very least you should demand it be done in privacy. I think you failed as a mother and totally let your son down. I hope for your son's sake that you never let it happen again.

Also remember that you as his parent have the final decision. That MA sounds like a real ass and you shouldn't let him FORCE your son, or you to do anything. Speak up! He's an MA for Christ's sake! MA's aren't even required by law to get any medical education.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Small Town Doctor


Author:
Ed
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Date Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 11:37: am

The liberal use of the glass rectal thermometer to take kids temperatures was considered normal 50 years ago at many doctors offices, clinics, especially at military service clinics: rectal temperatures were taken in plain view of the waiting room, a mix of a rectal and multiple oral temperatures were taken concurrently in the same confined area, glass thermometers were the only available thermometers available, etc. There were cutoff ages where rectal temperatures were required, usually at the age of 5 or 6, yet some older ones were selected for rectal temps for reasons like colds, drinking cold liquids, and other reasons. Since adult were given consideration of privacy and kids were not, it could be assumed that the unmasking of a kids behind and either taking a temperature rectally or given a shot in plain view of an common area, that privacy was a non-issue for kids.

It was obvious that many nurses were biased toward taking kids temperatures rectally and when an opportunity presented itself, the nurse would be pleased to perform the task. Suffice it to say that the experience has had a lifetime effect on the kids that experienced it either as patients getting their temperatures taken and/or observing kids having their temperatures taken.

By the way, the same can be said of childhood enemas, suppositories, shots, physicals, etc. The difference between these medical procedures and taking temperatures rectally with glass thermometers, is that the other procedures are still used extensively and will continue to affect kids growing up, creating an assortment of medical fetishes. With the very few doctors offices and clinics that still use glass thermometers (especially with those that have limited privacy), it can be expected that this fetish will come to an end (at least in the North American continent).

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[> [> Subject: Re: Small Town Doctor


Author:
Jaden
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Date Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 05:41: am

Thank God we are more civilized now in America (in most places).

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Small Town Doctor


Author:
THIS Guy
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Date Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 07:19: pm

Civilized Jaden?...It's not a question of civilty at all. It's uniquely a question of EFFECIENCY, DEPENDABILITY and PRACTICALTY. Can't you recognise a capitalistic profiteering imposed endeavour when you see one. Those digital thermometers are expensive, useless pieces of crap; many among which end up in the garbage polluting our environment. Besides, try to loosen up and have a little kinky fun in your life...and I don't necessarily mean go molest some kid somewhere either... And as far as your little prejudicial comment goes...get real and get properly educated and informed before making such ignorant assumptions over people abroad. BTW, IMHO; that's not God's way I'm quite sure of that.

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[> [> Subject: To this guy


Author:
Tim
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Date Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 02:45: am

I dont think Jaden's comment was prejudicial. I think he meant, that medicine in America has advanced to a point where we understand the affects of certain situations. He made no mention of America vs. Abroad. So I'm confused where your anger comes from. And if you want to compare our Country with many in Europe, look at their teeth???? Not prejudice....factual.

Next....I don't hink Digital Thermometers are useless or inaccurate. All of our hospitals use them and I havent known anyones temperature to be that off from a digital reading. The same holds true for an ear thermometer. I also doubt that disgarded thermometers are the reason for Global Warming.....lol

I assume you drive car. Perhaps blame your own self for contributing to pollution. Your car tailpipe sends poisonous Carbon Monoxide in their air every second. Perhaps worry about that before digital thermometers.

Lastly, digital thermometers are no more expensive then Mercury ones. If we go back to when they only had glass thermometers, they were expensive. In additon, Mercury is a very poisonous substance. If a glass thermometer ever cracked in your butt, you'd have a real life and death issue; especially if it happened to a Todler. Digital is not only faster, but much much safer.....

I rest my case your honor.....

:>) Tim

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[> [> [> Subject: The more you try, the less I believe...


Author:
THIS Guy
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Date Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 09:01: pm

I don't believe in male nurses...they're called ORDERLIES...A rose by any other name is NOT a rose; and furthermore, I don't use a car more than I have to; I'm VERY wary about that...and today's glass thermometer's DON'T have mercury in them any more but it is advisable that they be used cautiously in any case. Stop trying to justify the unjustifiable by trying to push standard issues on people; any wise and rational individual can easily see through the haze of brainwashed capitalists. It's not anger as much as frustration to be a bystander witnessing so much ignorance, hypocrisy and deception all over. So much going on, so little to believe in. Yours is no exception... as sure as cancer is not a disease, but a carefully contrived and pre-arranged social murder weapon. Case closed your dishonor! (I'm really sorry if I've offended you in any way, but I just can't stand the vicious insideousness of the legally criminal free-for-all going on these days when entire families can be snuffed out like candles by the mere whim of a few influencial hate blind socialites...)

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The more you try, the less I believe...


Author:
Tim
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Date Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 10:54: pm

Hi THIS Guy,
No I dont get offended, ever. What people say is merely a representation of that they're about. It has very little to do with me or anyone else.

I do think that Capitalism doesnt work and greed takes over. However, I have yet to find a form of government that works any better, have you?

Tim

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Awareness is a start...


Author:
THIS Guy
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Date Posted: Friday, September 25, 2009, 10:18: am

Hi Tim! I'm glad you're not offended by my rants. It's good to see that you're at least aware of things as they are, and that's a damn good start towards a better day for all. Now if everyone would make that conscious effort, at least there would be hope for consideration of a more humanitarian and benevolent alternative form of government. You can also do good with money, but somehow human nature with its obsession with power is for some reason inclined to do just the opposite. Cheers!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Small Town Doctor


Author:
Ed
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 01:13: pm

Both digital and mercury thermometers are made by capitalists. So what's the difference.

As far as digital thermometers verses mercury filled glass thermometers are concerned, putting the toxicity aside if one is dropped and breaks, it is a matter of preference.

It is obvious that digital thermometers are at least as accurate and produce fast results. Plus, there is virtually no chance of a mishap with one in a child's mouth since the components cannot break with misuse.

As far as expense is concerned, it is true that a digital thermometer for home use is about the same cost as a glass one (if one can be found). However, a clinical digital thermometer can cost over a $1K. I can see why a more seasoned physician would think that glass thermometers always worked before so why change. Especially if their staff does not mind using them.

Glass thermometers are reliable and the concern over a mishap occurs when a youngster's temperature is taken orally. A rectal temperature solves that problem when a glass thermometer is used and the attendant is pleased to know that the glass rectal thermometer is secure with the thermometer in place. Obviously, to repeatedly taking youngsters temperatures several times a day requires that the attendant also find the job satisfying.

So it takes a doctor that continues to use glass thermometers and staff members to value them as well.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Small Town Doctor


Author:
THIS Guy
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Date Posted: Friday, October 02, 2009, 07:34: am

What are you talking about ED? Glass thermometers are much more effective than any other. If you don't know the facts, don't comment as if you do.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Small Town Doctor


Author:
Ed
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Date Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009, 03:34: am

It does not matter which on is more effective than the other. What does matter is what one has a greater comfort level. For glass thermometers, it is a familiar icon that appeals to those it served in their younger years.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Small Town Doctor


Author:
Membership
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Date Posted: Friday, October 02, 2009, 09:18: pm

"THIS Guy" does not have both oars in the water.

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