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Subject: Re: Waiting for the Doctor


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Dennis
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Date Posted: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 04:47: pm
In reply to: Becky 's message, "Waiting for the Doctor" on Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 08:04: pm

This took place even in the late 60's. Mom made the living room the sick room for me so I could watch TV, only one TV in the house at that time. She thought the TV would keep me entertained while I was sick. This was when I was about 6 to about 9 or so that I remember this. I do remember the doctor coming to the house on a few occasions, but most of the time I was brought to his office. It was about the time doctors stopped making house calls. The downside of the living room being the sick room, was when the doc did come, anyone who was home got to watch what went on, this included my older sister and sometimes my aunt and cousins. Sometimes I got a shot and had my rectal temp taken by the doc, and like the posters above, he would sometimes order an enema be given to me. After the doc left, mom would go upstairs and get the enema ready. My aunt and cousins would hang around and then when mom came and got me, would follow us up to the bathroom and would watch me get the enema. When started getting close to 10 years old, I started protesting to my mom about having an audience, luckily she agreed with me. She would wait until everyone was gone or to the next morning before she gave me the enema.

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Becky
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Date Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2009, 05:12: am

That sounds terribly embarrassing! Especially around the age of ten.

I remember my uncle coming over because mom got her car stuck in the snow when we were leaving to go to the doctor's office. I don't remember what happed except we weren't going to the doctor so I was pleased. He was our youngest uncle and more like a big brother to us.

We were in mom and dad's bed reading and I suppose getting well while mom and my uncle were in the kitchen drinking coffee. Then I heard a knock at the door and the most fighting voice of the doctor.

To my horror the doctor, my mom and my uncle came into the bedroom. It wasn't long until my sister had her nightgown off and the doctor examining her in front of my uncle. I know she had to be embarrassed since we were older and trying to look more grown up in our uncle's eyes. Then I heard the word I most feared, penicillin. Soon the doctor had her panties off and on her tummy while my uncle looked on. The doctor always moved the covers out of the way and made plenty of room. I'm sure he had some kids that tired to wrap up in them to keep from getting a shot.

Then it was the awful scream and bawling that followed while I was frozen watching what was happening to my sister. When I looked around I saw my uncle grinning at my mother. I was so embarrassed, I wanted to crawl in a hole. Then I was next and of course off came my nightgown and I must have blushed three shade of red. This time I was lucky and didn't have to get a shot, so my dignity was saved somewhat.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Waiting for the Doctor


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they hurt to bechky and all
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Date Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2009, 08:20: am

BECKY== you have my total sympathy. NEEDLES in the buttcheek hurt me SO BAD also. THEY STUNG BURNED and hurt beyond what I could stand . I was young also, and would be so terrified when I found out I was getting a big sharp needle in my butt.I will never forget that pain and the embarrasment of getting it in the rearend.SO I understand how you felt.ONE time when I was young I was crying when the doctor was over he threatend me if I did not stop crying he would giveme a needle. I shut right up!! to all that have felt that horrible pain in the butt cheek . I understand==ANYONE ELSE willing to tell there story?

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[> [> [> Subject: Another Question for Becky


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Tim
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Date Posted: Friday, October 02, 2009, 08:09: am

I was wondering if your experience left you a bit scared all year 'round, or at certain times of the year; For you had a 3 times greater chance of getting a shot then other kids because if any of your 2 sisters needed a shot, you might get one also.

I didn't go to doctor's offices as a kid. My grandfather was the family doctor and he lived next door!!!! When I was a kid, he was about 65. We had 3 families in my house since my grandparents, aunt and uncle, and their kids, all hung in our house. They all lived on the same block. This was between 1964 and 1970. I didn't get regular checkups. I had 3 brothers, but I never saw them get a shot. However, everyone saw me get one. I was the youngest of the 4 of us. I remember this happening from when I was 4 until about 12.

It would go like this if I were sick.....

My mom would call my grandfather in to give me a quick checkup. At that point, I didn't think much of it because I didn't feel that sick. Maybe a slight sore throat.

After I said "ahhhh," my grandfather would ask the question, "Can he take pills?" Since I was afraid of pills, I would yell No!!!!!.

My grandfather would then say," I'm going to have to give him a shot."

At that point, instant terror came over me and I started yelling and screaming that I didn't want a shot! There mere mention of that word sent me hysterically crying. It was too late. The decision was made. My entire family would be there and they would all go into the kitchen and watched as my grandfather boiled the needle. This usually took 30 minutes. No one seemed to care that I was in the living room crying and screaming. Some of my brothers or my cousin would come in the house and ask why I was crying. My mom would tell them, "Grandpa is giving him a shot." I would hear them laugh and they would stay in the kitchen with everyone else. I could smell alcohol all through the house. That smell became an evil smell when I grew up because it always meant a shot.

So I sat alone in the living room crying away pleading not to get the shot. But not only did it fall on deaf ears, I could hear everyone laughing. The only thought in my head was how bad the last shot hurt and how much time was left before this one. I was in complete terror as the minutes went by. It always went the same way. At a certain point, everyone in the kitchen came into the living room. This panicked me even more. The next thing I knew, I had many hands unfastening my pants and they maneuvered my body so I was now on my stomach on the couch. There wasn't even a chance of resisting because there were too many hands on me. My grandfather was always the last to come into the living room. At first I would kick like crazy as they pulled my pants and underwear down. Then I was held by even more hands which stopped me from kicking. I was now completely helpless with my pants down and my butt exposed. At this point I was crying even harder and louder.

I would then see my grandfather come into the living room, through the corner of my eye. I knew I was getting the needle soon and kept crying and begging not to get it. The next thing I knew, I felt my grandfather wiping a part of my butt with alcohol and no matter how hard I tried, I couldnt move. My mother, aunt, grandmother, and brother and cousin were all holding me and laughing.

The final part always went like this. After I felt the alcohol being rubbed, my entire family would slowly count to 3. I WAS getting it on 3 and by now I was in total panic. So, all together, they started counting. As hard as I tried, I couldn't move. When they got to 3, I felt that needle go into my butt like a huge nail. The needle itself hurt like crazy. It truly felt like a long nail was inside me. I could feel the coldness of the steel deep inside. After the needle was in, my grandfather would say to everyone, "Now hold him still." Then I would feel the medicine going in and it felt like a fire was being injected deep inside me. It burned and burned and he always injected it slowly. I would be screaming even louder and everyone would hold me tighter.

I dont know exactly how the long it took to inject the medicine but it was NOT fast. I cried and pleaded with them to stop but he just kept injecting. As if this wasn't bad enough, it stung like crazy when he pulled the needle out! That part was as bad as when he stuck it in.

When it was finally over, I would lay there in a puddle of water crying like crazy with my butt on fire. My mother would stay with me while I continued crying, for about 10 minutes. When I finally could, I limped up the stairs to my room and layed in my bed under the covers. I didn't want to move. Any movement made my butt hurt. It woukd hurt for days and it constantly reminded me of the shot. The pain of the whole thing overshadowed any embarrassment. I didn't get teased or anything but I did feel funny around my brothers and cousins who I knew held me down.

This scene would happen anytime I was sick with more then a simple cold. One thing I know, the needles used back then were reusable and always had to be boiled. I saw the needle once and it was very long and thick. I dont think they are that big today.

But back then, if you were getting Penicillin, it was a serious shot. I'm sure it was even worse when they gave kids gamma globulin the in the 50's. Thank God I wasn't a kid then!!!!

The possibility of getting a shot worried me all year 'round. There were other shots in the butt and they were usually given before the summer since they covered camp and school that way.

I got shots like this until I was 12. After that, there was no way they had the strength to hold me down. I think I also finally got over my fear of pills by 12.

One thing was for sure, I was going to go through this whole experience at least once a year. But I never knew just when.....

Tim

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they hurt to TIM
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Date Posted: Friday, October 02, 2009, 10:16: am

TIM I am so sorry for the pain that you felt in your butt cheek. I felt that horrible stinging pain many times to. MY butt hurt so bad I coud not stand it. Itwas so embarrassing with pants and underwear down for an injection. the sting of those injections were so painful in my butt too /PENNiCILLAN/GONNA GLOBULIN and a bunch of other shots HURT me and I lived in terror to not knowing when the next one was coming. SO I understand you and BECKY and the rest of the people.IT was so unfair to hurt us like that. ARMS would have been so much easier to deal with. let me know if you want totalk

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Another Question for Becky


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nicole (sad for you)
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Date Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 01:25: am

I thankful have never had a shot in the butt matter of fact the last shot I have was 12 years ago when I was 8 I feel so sorry for you and tim and becky I am so glad after reading your post that I have not had to go through that and I never will let a dr do that to my son

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Becky
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Date Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 10:16: am

>>I have not had to go through that and I never will let a dr do that to my son<<

You have to remember in my case how new penicillin was back then. It had only been in mass production for 12 years by the time I was seven years old.

We are much further along with computers today than we were with penicillin back then. Most young adults today didn't know of a time where there wasn't a computer or computer viruses. Even today we are seeing people that lose all their data and have to reformat their computer because of viruses.

Injections were also the only way to deliver penicillin, but I think the reason so many of us had to endure so much pain or the frequent use was lack of knowledge. It also was based on the age of the doctor, I'm sure, how quickly he would grab the needle and use it on everyone in the house.

Today we will hear terribly sad stories how someone's kid had to go to the hospital because they were so sick. Very seldom is it due to an infection, but sometime it is, and even fewer times did they have to stay overnight in a hospital because of it. In my grandmother's day (and the doctor's day) she grew up where 3 kids out of a large family of 10 died before they were ten. These were due to various causes but mostly infection and many time they were never determined because lack of knowledge. Once penicillin was in wide use they seldom saw such things.

So now think of yourself as a doctor growing up as a kid back then and watching the whole family going through burying your brother or sister that will never be seen again. A crying little kid getting a shot in his or her butt was of little concern compared to what he witnesses. And also imagine his before and after solution as an adult watching kids you treat die, then a few years later with the same illness, they would live. In fact if you could you'd probably want to go door to door giving shots to everyone that had a sniffle knowing you could save lives. There was a reason it was given in the big muscle of the bottom instead of the arm. It hurt plenty and smaller muscle was worse. It was also better to see a kid limping instead of unable to reach for a glass of water while in bed.

I think you really have to use common sense today since the side effects are so minor and rare for most drugs and injections. I can't believe that some parents are refusing flu shots to their kids. To me it's the same as not strapping your child into a seat belt or car seat due to the rare occasion the seatbelt caused a death.

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Becky
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Date Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009, 08:28: am

Yes, penicillin was a serious shot and they were giving them out like candy. Very few times do I ever remember getting penicillin in pill form. It was always a shot and always in the bottom. All kids were more afraid of the word penicillin than the word shot, because penicillin always meant it was going to be in your heinie and they hurt bad.

Every time we went to the doctor in the late 50's and early 60's it was embarrassing. For girls we only had skirts and a blouse and they would be removed as soon as we got in the room. All three of us would be sitting on the table in our panties and each time the door opened someone could see you if they were walking down the hall. There was no such things as gowns in the doctor's office like today, except for adults. It was always cold and smelled like alcohol.

Then you would hear one or two kids get shots while you were waiting. We'd try to decide which one got the shot by listening to them bawl. Even mom would try to guess which kid it was in the waiting room that just got his or her shot. That just made it more embarrassing because the other kids were doing the same thing and you didn't want them to know that you were the one crying like a baby. It sort of helped when you had two other sisters, but it made it much worse being reminded how much it was going to hurt.

And since there was a lot more resistance probably because penicillin stung so bad, they would pull your panties down real far so you couldn't pull them up or fight with them holding on to your panties. And you would lay there waiting for the nurse to return with the tray, and of course anyone walking by when she opened the door could see you laying there. Since there were three of us, they didn't wait for one to finish crying then get the next one on the table, they would go out the door while you were still crying and later you would be embarrassed thinking all that might have seen you crying on the table when the door was opened. Mom would get the next girl ready and the process would start all over again.

But to your question not always all three of us would get shots but a lot of times it happened. I only remember worrying about the doctor during school season. The next worst thing was getting hurt in the summer and going to the doctor because they always wanted to check if your tetanus shots were up to date. He gave those in the bottom too and we cried but it didn't hurt as much as the penicillin shots.

Looking back I think the doctor was a moneygrubber. If he came to the house we had to go to his office the next day or day after that. He always had a reason for us to see him including mother. I think that is just how he got paid for making house calls... double the charges. It was about the middle 1960 when he quit making house calls.

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Tiffany
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Date Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009, 04:16: pm

This past Monday I went to see my doctor and was told I had a a bad case of strept throat. he told me they would need to give me 2 injections. A nurse came in and told me to roll over on my stomach and push down my jeans. I am 21 and I can't remember the last time I got a shot in my hip. I heard people walk by and knew any moment that he would be back. I almost freaked out when he walked carrying those 2 shots. I felt my panties come down. One by one I got a needle in each hip. The last shot hurt really bad. He told me it was bicillin and that my butt would be sore for a few days. I limped out trying not to draw attention, but I am sure every knew I had just got a shot in my butt.

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Becky
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Date Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009, 11:50: pm

Yeah, that's how it was back then with just standard penicillin shots. These shots would cause you to limp. I don't remember in my adult life many shots in my hip has caused me to limp. As kids that was one of the things you were looking for when kids came out into the waiting room. You would look and see if their eyes were red like they had been crying and to see if they were limping. You could then be sure the scream and crying you heard a while before was this boy or girl. That is why it was embarrassing in front of the other kids or anyone you were trying to impress as being a big girl if you couldn't fake it.

I remember trying to look brave in the waiting room and acting like I wasn't concerned but I was scared to death waiting for my name to be called. My younger sisters were not able to hide their fear as well, especially the youngest one. At least if I got a shot, I thought that others would think they were the ones crying so it would not be as embarrassing to me. They would be whiny and be asking mom if they were going to get a shot and if it would be in their bottom. But it also just reminded me of what I was worried about too. Mom seemed to lie to us saying that we probably wouldn't get a shot or if we did it probably wouldn't be in the bottom.

The worst shot my littlest sister ever got was one that she knew she would get the next day. She already got a shot a couple days before and when mom called about her tonsils were still swollen and had pus they told her to bring her in the next day and they'd give her another penicillin shot. I got in trouble for that one since when I heard mom talking to the doctor's office I couldn't wait to tell my sister that she was going to get another shot. She cried all the way to the doctor's office and when we checked in the receptionist asked on the intercom if anyone had time to give a little girl a penicillin shot that was waiting by the front desk. We heard the voice say that she would be up in minute to take her back. We didn't even sit down and in a while the nurse came up holding the shot in her hand and took my sister back with her while we waited. She was crying as she walked down the hall with the nurse. Soon we could hear my sister screaming and crying. It seemed to last for a long time and when she came out she was still sobbing. There was no doubt who got a shot that time and she was still crying and sniffling all the way home.

I don't know what they give now for strep throat but back then it was two shots also... one was penicillin and one was to "dry you up." Both hurt about the same.

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Dr. Jay
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Date Posted: Friday, March 19, 2010, 08:49: pm

The medication of choice given today for strep is amoxicillin typically in 500mg caps. Some docs, however, still prefer penicillin but most often in pill form.

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Tim
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Date Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2009, 05:42: pm

Tiffany was this in a 24 Hour Doc in The Box type place? I've noticed that in New York, doctors don't tend to give shots in the butt, let alone 2. Maybe just in the Doc-in-the-Box type places. What State was this in?

When he told you he was giving you 2 shots, you just went along with it? You didn't ask if you could take pills?

Getting 2 shots I would think your entire butt hurt for days????

Tim

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