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Date Posted: 01:20:15 10/03/02 Thu
Valerie
As we take on Christ as our example, advocate and lawyer we are wanting to act Christ-like and regarded ourselves as being IN Christ. This is a special Spiritual connotation. For as Christ can be IN us, so is Christ also IN the Father equally a special Spiritual connotation. Christ desires that we be both IN Him and IN the Father. That we be all one in Spirit and IN truth. For God is TRUTH. Now this term being IN Christ is as usual the pointing to a future. The Spiritual points to the actual at a not to distant in time.
Now take it literally that Eve was made from the Flesh and Bone of Adam. Genesis 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. How wise was this Adam he just seemed to know the whole aspect of Eve's creation from his own body. What we would call this today is evidential CLONING. This CLONING included modification, since it was not another man the Lord created, but a woman. Think not this as amazing as for Adam he was made right from the start from basic material, the very virgin soil of this planet. The term creation has has often conjured up making from nothing, but in reality Adam was made from existing substance, elements/dust of the soil. Eve was made from the existing flesh and bone of Adam. If science was to do the same they would have to use existing material also. In essence Eve was the daughter of his own *flesh and bone. Think about that----Eve was the closest relationship a human could have with another human. The perfect matched couple, the perfect marriage of two people as one flesh. When son's took sister's for wives, it was the same close relationship as Adam had to Eve, for each would have the exact same DNA component that had no change, since Eve's DNA would only have that which determined her to be a woman. Every Son and every daughter would be an exact duplicate of their Male of Female parent. There would be no gene contamination whatever. Gene contamination comes from disease, and mutations this in the early stages did not occur. Like I have said before the ways of the Lord are exciting and marvelous. The four ways humanity came into the world. Adam was fashioned from basic material, Eve from cloning, Mary bore a child by virgin birth, for the child was generated by the Holy Spirit and not through the association with a man. Then of course there is Pro-creation. Amazing had you ever thought of it this way before? When Adam was suscitated into life, by the Lord breathing into his nostrils, it follows a pattern we do when we have someone stop breathing at drowning. First we squeeze the water form the lungs then breath through the nostrils to have air enter the lungs and they become re-suscitated and if caught in time the soul returns. What was first called "Adam" was a lifeless body probable supported artificially like a mother supports her child until it breaths for itself. Once the lungs were filled Adam naturally breathed out and his awareness came to him. The Lord breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, the root word for breath is spirit thus one can also say the Lord breathed into him the spirit of life. WOW. AND MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL. (Not that there is such a thing as a dead soul except spiritually) Thus we have the formula BODY + SPIRIT = SOUL. The root word for soul is also 'soil', man in essence became living soil. WOW. Because man was made from the very soil he was totally adapted to earthly habitation. Whereas the Celestial humans he was made in the image of were created from Celestial substance and clearly adapted for living in the Celestial realms. Though the Celestials do not all themselves hu-mans, the word human is not a Scriptural word, rather Adam means earth-man (or man of earth) the root word for earth is 'adamah'. The Celestials called themselves collectively 'elohim' Godward ones. Archaic Hebrew transferred the letter of their ancient type to that of the Aramaic, but this in no way changed the connotation of any any word in the archaic Hebrew. The change was done letter for letter, each new letter shape being the reflection of the original in ancient Hebrew which was very much the same as the more ancient Chaldean and Syrian. All classified as Semitic languages, each nation being able to understand the other without much effort. The word hu-man developed in the English tongue to describe the variation of hue, skin pigmentation, that man was of many hues thus hu-men covers all races descendant from Adam.
Now would it be at all impossible since Christ describes Himself as the "second Adam" for all the bodies of the new creation IN Christ to be transformed into having a body exactly like Christ's? No of course not, "We shall have a body liken unto His glorious body," Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. Nothing is impossible for He is able to subdue ALL THINGS unto Himself. WOW. The first man Adam was a natural man, the last man Adam is a spiritual man (Jesus) 1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Ah-ha we can see the problem, Adam could not discern things spiritually, that is to say he could not foresee things in their present time or visualise the horrendous effect it was to have spiritually on the whole of mankind their actions of disobedience. For Adam and Eve were not spiritually inclined to understand. 1Corinthians 15: you need to read the whole chapter..
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not aquickened, except it die: 37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 46. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47. The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven. 48. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 50. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. Isa 25:8 55. O death, where is thy sting? Isaiah 25:8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it. 1 Cor 15:54 Rev 7:17, 21:4 )
*Under the criteria of flesh we can include that Eve had the exact same blood type.
28 Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Christ denies ranking Himself as being equal to God. In fact there is no TRINITY but many divisions and operations of the Spirit.
1 Corinthians 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
Christ gives up the throne of the kingdom to God, even the Father.
The process of Christ being the Son of Man who was Himself the Lord of Host who became His own creation to save it is mentioned in relation with the Ancient of Days: Daniel 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. to Daniel 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. It tells of the Lord of Hosts commission to subdue the kingdoms of this world.
1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Ephesians 1:19 - 23. And what is the exceeding greatness of his (The Father's) power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20. Which he (The Father) wrought in Christ, when he (The Father) raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21. Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this aworld, but also in that which is to come: 22. And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23. Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
Personally I do not believe anything that cannot be explained in logical terms, and I do take the matter of Scripture as fact and explainable as long as mere belief or unsubstantiated faith is not expressed. Of course one must have an imagination, a kind of temporal faith based on a possibility to begin with until investigation produces evidence supportive of that faith. The initial faith usually stems from the concept that there must be more of a purpose to life than what appears on the surface of our understanding. But investigation into traditional Christian teaching are see often to violate Scriptural facts. The purpose of life becomes evident on investigation, as this unfolds and false traditions and belief for belief sake is proven wrong the ideal becomes obvious and cannot be denied.
Shalabeth
Shalabeth ben-Shoer
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