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Date Posted: 01:00:23 09/25/02 Wed
Author: Anon
Subject: Re: I'm shocked!
In reply to: Anon 's message, "Re: I'm shocked!" on 00:57:30 09/25/02 Wed

First of all, there have been plenty of opportunities for discussion with people to discuss things discretely, but he refused. He refused in 1976, he refused in 1989 and he refused now. The 1989 incident was private and only directors were involved, still he rejected.

Second, not all the people who are involved in the reform are doing what you accuse. Still, he will not meet with them.

Thirdly, there is no other way to deal with UBF problems other than by public denunciation. This in itself is Biblical. When people refuse to repent then the issues must be brought out in the open. Samuel Lee himself has closed all channels to discussion.

Even if you discount the rabid reformers, you are still left with the critical problem of UBF which
is unaccountable authoritarian leadership gone wild. What is your idea about how to handle such a problem? What is the proper way that reformers SHOULD have followed? I have had this discussion about a dozen times with people like you and it is at this juncture that they fall silent because they don't have a decent answer. I do not expect you to respond to this because no people who want to seriously consider the critical problem of UBF can answer it. Go ahead, give yourself a spiritual lobotomy so you can cope. Don't face them, don't talk about them. Hide in your isolation and your spiritual brain-deadness! One day you will wake up like all the others eventually do.

Lastly, who is John Proctor? If you want to bring him into the discussion give him all the facts and let him speak for himself. This is not a normal situation.

I think you and SL want to make the publicity a rationalization for not discussing. But that is a poor excuse. What about in the heavenly kingdom? We will all know everything there, so we may as well start now. If the leaders, and the body in UBF cannot handle this man that is out of control, then by all means the rest of the world should be warned.

As for these websites, get used to them. If UBF continues, then more and more will spring up. Perhaps there will be one for each chapter? UBF needs more watch dogs. Since it will not be accountable and tell the truth to its members then outsiders will have to do it.


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