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Date Posted: 12:08:37 04/08/02 Mon
Author: Adilbrand
Subject: Re: Responsibility of choice
In reply to: Bill 's message, "Re: Responsibility of choice" on 02:02:29 04/08/02 Mon

And do you want to live in a world where people are not given a set of rules to live and learn by?

This is a poor argument tactic. Argument By Question:
asking your opponent a question which does not have a snappy answer. (Or anyway, no snappy answer that the audience has the background to understand.) Your opponent has a choice: he can look weak or he can look long-winded. For example, "How can scientists expect us to believe that anything as complex as a single living cell could have arisen as a result of random natural processes?"

You are also exaggerating my point, which refers to RELIGION. You are making a straw man argument (attacking an exaggerated or caricatured version of your opponent's position).

Besides, how do we know that if a religion didn't offer rules, but instead offered support and a different way of viewing something, that the world would be worse off?

Of course they should think for themselves, but you have got to have some roots before you can grow to know what you know now.

School, parents, ancient and modern philosophers, personal observation... what do we need organized religion for?

Especially when you think about children: they need other's rules. And quite a few adults have no idea of what to do without guidence.

But do they need a RELIGION's rules?
I think some better judgement should be used on what is taught. And some things should be taught more as a possibility than something that is necessarily a fact and you go to hell if you don't believe it. But some concreteness is needed. People NEED something to believe in. We all need it. We are rather empty without it.

But who ordained an organized religion as the provider of that belief? People find their own beliefs well enough on their own.

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