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Date Posted: 01/27/09 8:52:15pm
Author: Anonymous
Subject: Is this pageant system fair? I have heard some people say no, but was wondering what everyone else thought. First year going and really hope it is fair.


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[> What is your definition of fair -- Anonymous, 01/27/09 9:04:49pm

I would not go so far as to say it is rigged but I would say that in some divisions it will be highly predictable who wins.


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[> [> They go by the scores, and judges dont know the kids. -- Anonymous, 01/27/09 9:28:12pm


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[> Citrus is a really fun pageant we love it. We have won and lost and still will go. We think it is fair unlike the out of state circut pageants who use circut judges who know all the name circut wins -- Anonymous, 01/27/09 9:41:04pm


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[> Same judges and same kids over and over. -- Anonymous, 01/28/09 7:10:17am


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[> [> I disagree, Citrus is a fair pageant we have been doing it for years , I have never seen the same judges there. This is a pageant that you have to start preparing for way in advance, you must be consistant in all events -- Anonymous, 01/28/09 8:58:37am


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[> Michael told me that all of this years judges have never judged citrus before -- Anonymous, 01/28/09 9:18:33am

And different judges for each category


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[> us too we have been doing citrus for the las 5yrs and only one once , win or loose very fun and fair pageant . -- Anonymous, 01/28/09 1:51:28pm


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[> in the 9 years we have done that pageant only ONCE did I really question a winner. Remember that interview plays a big part in the score too -- Anonymous, 01/28/09 4:11:37pm


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[> Not just the winners should be questioned...some place that shouldn't, and all buy last year you could see the private interview on the video so you knew how that went too. -- Anonymous, 01/28/09 4:13:28pm


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[> Judges don't know contestants but director knows judges and judging criteria. Does this create an advantage for girls being coached by the director ? -- Anonymous, 01/28/09 5:39:25pm


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[> [> does micheal coach? -- Anonymous, 01/28/09 6:49:49pm


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[> [> NO it does not help them -- Anonymous, 01/28/09 8:40:38pm


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[> [> [> Michael works mainly with newer kids that are totally clueless and he gives them the basics and a little more. He does not care who wins. To win you have to be very good in interview, beauty and really catch the eye of the judges in Citruswear. -- Anonymous, 01/28/09 8:42:56pm


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[> He totally cares who wins!! He wouldn't allow himself to be embarrassed by a newbie winning. -- Anonymous, 01/29/09 7:29:07am


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[> [> You are so wrong newbies have won. Guess yours cant win his pageant -- Anonymous, 01/29/09 10:17:02pm


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[> [> [> Been there - won that already so I guess you are wrong. The only newbies you will see win are babies. -- Anonymous, 01/30/09 12:40:49pm


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[> [> [> [> I doubt that very much -- Anonymous, 01/30/09 6:13:43pm


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[> Also remember, you have a seperate set of judges for each event! which means you have to catch the attention of 3 different sets of judges -- Anonymous, 01/30/09 8:20:13am


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[> SO DID EVERYONE THINK IT WAS FAIR? -- Anonymous, 02/ 8/09 3:23:30pm


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[> Can only speak for 10 - 13. ND trained intensively with MG last year. -- Anonymous, 02/ 8/09 4:20:58pm

Now I am not implying that it was rigged and I think MG runs a fair unbiased system. But if you train with the director you know what they look for in his system.


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[> [> COI -- Anonymous, 02/ 9/09 11:04:47am


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[> [> How do you know that she trained with him? -- Anonymous, 02/ 9/09 2:35:24pm


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[> [> [> Thats a good question I would also like to see the answer to that. -- Anonymous, 02/ 9/09 4:24:06pm


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[> [> [> [> Anyone who trained with him saw her around. -- Anonymous, 02/ 9/09 5:05:52pm


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[> [> [> [> [> others train with him as well, big COI!! He shouldn't do both in my opinion, either run a pageant or be a coach. JMO -- Anonymous, 02/10/09 3:15:00pm


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[> [> [> [> [> [> so let me see.. kids "train" with Amanda and go to Faces but you dont complain, what is the difference? -- Anonymous, 02/10/09 4:29:01pm


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Difference = judges. If judges are regular "circuit" pageant judges and everybody knows the criteria, no COI. c/i -- Anonymous, 02/10/09 6:46:59pm

if judges are picked by director and told by director how to score/what to look for then there is potential for COI.
Just potential, not saying there is/was


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Do you live in fantasy land? "circuit judges know the big name kids and just pick them have seen it time and time again. They are the biggest cheat out there. -- Anonymous, 02/10/09 9:18:27pm


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