Re: Sun and Moon Dojo -- North Carolina Mixed Martial Arts

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Subject: Re: Sun and Moon Dojo

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Todd Warren

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Date Posted: 11:26:35 02/22/08 Fri
In reply to: Todd Warren 's message, "Sun and Moon Dojo" on 13:53:50 02/19/08 Tue

Brandon and others,

We are just opening our doors to the public. Previously we were training privately with my instructor and these students are focused on self-defense. To answer your question, we have no MMA fighters competing out of our dojo currently because like I have said several times we are just now opening.

This is listed as the forum for the NEO-GEN website. The home page says,"This site is dedicated to the promotion of realistic training within the martial arts. Our focus will be on the Mixed Martial Arts as a whole to include all forms of Grappling, Striking, Vale Tudo/Free Fighting, and Self Protection/Combatives. Hopefully, with the support from this site and the many other mixed martial artists that reside in our area, we will be able to spread the value of crosstraining and mixed martial arts to other individuals and training groups." I announced our dojo on this forum because folks in the Greensboro area could benefit.

Since I made that announcement, the majority of the responses have been attacking and challenging. I have not made any claims other than that if you are interested in training in MMA to come check us out. I still stand by that.

Like I said on another post, anyone can claim anything over the internet. If you come take a class (first one free) with Shihan Shameek and then are not satisfied then post your criticism.

I never requested a donation from folks here. Our blog lets folks in our community know how they can support us; nothing more, nothing less. Why that makes anyone "feel strange" I'm not sure.

I'm not going to bother to respond to the various other criticisms because frankly, they are totally invalid and immature.

If you all truly want to grow MMA then act professionally. If you want it to be a private club which allow folks to email and talk junk, then change nothing.

Martial arts, mixed or otherwise are more than being able to beat the crap out of someone. Discipline and respect are essential to the arts.

Todd

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Neal Weaver
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Date Posted: 19:54:48 02/22/08 Fri

Using the MMA abbreviation lends itself towards competition. Mainly because the term is MUCH more mainstream now than it was 11 years ago (when I started training for MMA competition) and alot of instructors who care more about ways to make a buck are using the term very loosely to mean a "mixing of the different arts" knowing that is NOT what the general meaning is (meaning the general term is more competiton based).

Quite simply its geared around the training it takes to fight/compete in a MMA event. Whether people training in such an enviroment want to take it to a level where they ever compete is 100% up to them. I see alot of mma/grappling signs in places these days where I know that was not the focus of such places and styles in the past. It seems the focus changed a few years ago when MMA suddenly became a lucrative marketing term.

Part of acting professional is HAVING THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE professional in a training/teaching role for others. If I seem rude its because I am very blunt. Anyone who knows me (and several folks on this forum do) knows I say exactly what I think, all the time, for better or worse. I would like nothing better than the general public at large to be smitten with the idea of training at a legitimate gym where things that have been shown to be effective and practical in MMA are taught by people well qualified to teach them. BUT I dont want every guy who has ever seen how to lock a straight armlock or wrench a heelhook to be open for business and start teaching.

I have been around the sport for 11 years, and I have seen just about everything from superb instructors to guys who basically made up their resume's and started "teaching" folks who simply had no idea what they were learning was incomplete jargon (usually its guy who know a couple submissions are are TERRIBLE with transitions and positions and the technical details) because MMA and effective grappling were very much hard to come by. Now more people are informed, but the general public is still not going to know a proper technique from one learned the night before off a tape. Guys like that (bullshitters) will do more to kill MMA than any amount of internet talk.

I dont know if your guy is a bullshitter or not. I do know alot of the legit guys around the state. From them I can get a contact name of most anyone who has a legitimate background. I dont know your guy and have never heard of him. SO I asked direct questions about the gym/school and the donation thing.

As for me coming by and training, No point at all in that.

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