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Subject: Looking for a voice other then the ones in my head


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Carrie (overwhlmed and confused)
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Date Posted: 06/23/08 9:44pm

Hi, I found this site while looking for support while I consider terminating my pregnancy. I am the proud mother of 9 children. I know it probably sounds crazy to anyone who reads this that i am considering abortion believe me no one is more surprised then me. While I have always supported a persons right to choose I never thought I would be considering it myself. A little back story.... My oldest is almost 16. I gave her up for adoption because it was the best thing for her at that time in my life. 2 years later i married her father and had 3 children before we devoriced. After him I met a wonderful man who accepted me and my children just the way we were. We then had 2 daughters together a son that we lost at 26 wks followed by 2 more girls and the birth of our youngest son last November. My last pregnancy was complicated from the get go and the baby spent 6 weeks in the NICU. Needless to say I wasn't planning on having another one so soon. Our life is just getting back to normal( well as normal as a family of nine can be). My brain is going none stop right now. The logical side is saying we don't have the money, space, and or energy for another baby now. While the mom side of my brain is screaming WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU THIS IS YOUR BABY. So if anyones got any advice I'm all ears. Thanks for taking the time to read my ranting

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[> Subject: Re: Looking for a voice other then the ones in my head


Author:
Shellie
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Date Posted: 06/25/08 8:29am

Hi Carrie,

I only have a minute but I wanted to post to let you know that I've read your message, and that I'm here to support you the best that I can through cyberspace.

How far along are you? My guess is that you're pretty early into the pregnancy, which means you have some thinking time. And I recommend that you give yourself plenty of time to make this life-changing decision.

Try not to let your last pregnancy take part in making this decision. Every pregnancy is different and most are very uneventful. My first pregnancy was by far my most difficult (he also was in the NICU for 6 weeks). The 3 after that were walk in the park, compared.

Also, keep in mind that it's normal to not want an unplanned pregnancy, at first. It's hard to feel like you'll ever be happy about this, but you'd be surprised by how your feelings can change once you’re not so worried about how this will change your life. Usually time helps us out here. When a mom begins to bond with her baby, the fears seem subside.

I do not support a woman’s right to choose, but it’s not just because I believe the baby has a right to continue living. It’s also because I feel it’s rare that aborting your own child is “best” for you. It’s a rare woman who can pay a doctor to end her baby’s life, and then not be adversely affected by the experience. I know these are harsh words, but it’s also a fact. Being pro-choice doesn’t protect these women from the pain, guilt, and regret they usually battle with. I’ve talked with hundreds of post-abortive women who would do anything to reverse their choice.


Carrie, I know this is a very tough time for you. I can only imagine how worried you must feel at the prospect of adding another child to your family. Or how scared you must feel about possibly terminating your pregnancy. My heart goes out to you as you wrestle with this decision and try to make one that you feel you can live with.

How does the father feel about this unplanned pregnancy? Is he being supportive? Are your friends and other family members being supportive? Well, I really must run, but I’d love to continue talking with you. I’ll be checking the board daily for your posts.

Best wishes,

Shellie
[> [> Subject: Re: Looking for a voice other then the ones in my head


Author:
Carrie
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Date Posted: 07/ 2/08 7:37am

Thank you for your concren but we have decided that we are going to have the baby. It will be due approx 2/25/09. This was tough because we already have so many and the last three weren't exactly easy. We also have extended family that live with us at the moment and don't know when they will be moving. They ARE NOT very supportive of our choice to have a large family so needless to say we haven't told them and aren't going to until I'm at least 4 months so that I don't have to deal with ......well you could just not have it. Unfortunately I will still hear how are you going to afford another baby? You already don't have enough time or energy to deal with the ones you have how are you going to handle another one? Oh Yeah and my personal favorite is Well don't look to us for help! When everytime they get into trouble emotionally, fiancially or otherwise they always come to us. So in any case Thank you for youe opinons but by the time I actually got the time to check my email I had already made up my mind.
Carrie
[> Subject: Re: Looking for a voice other then the ones in my head


Author:
Pat
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Date Posted: 06/25/08 11:59am

Hi, Carrie,

This may come as a surprise, but I envy you! I have only seven children. I also had difficulty with my last pregnancy, and as a result, I stopped having children. I wanted more, but felt medically I wasn't up to it.

I support a woman's right to refuse to have an abortion. If this were protected, most women wouldn't get abortions, and most women's right to choose would be protected.

In spite of the claims to the contrary, abortion is dangerous. It could take your life, or render you disabled so you cannot care for your children. I have tons of information on this; many are individual stories of the tragedy of the complications from abortion. For the sake of your family, please don't do it!

It could also wreak havoc on your emotions and your marriage. And part of you doesn't want an abortion and is clear about that. Taken purely objectively, you're not a good candidate for abortion. There is something called Post Abortion (Stress) Syndrome. You could well agonize for years about having one. I ALMOST had one, and I had nightmares for months afterwards. I also know a woman who was dead, cold certain she wanted an abortion. In fact, she never wanted to have children at all. Afterwards, she became suicidal twice. I was never so scared in my life as I was the first time. A friend and I stayed with her all night, talking to her. The bad part was that we were miles away, and if she had wanted to go through with it, we couldn't have stopped her. After several years, she told me, "My abortion ruined my life."

And even if you were certain abortion is what you wanted, it wouldn't safeguard you from possible complications or emotional repercussions. It might also not spare your children, because either they'd sense something is wrong (and it could affect your ability to be a good mother), or they'd know, and either feel survivor guilt, or be afraid that if they didn't measure up, you'd get rid of them, too! And a woman is three times as likely to die a violent death in the year after abortion as a woman who carries to term.

Here is a site run by a pro-choice woman who has had five abortions. It will show you what the emotional repercussions can be. afterabortion.com. And many of the women who seem to be OK afterwards agonize internally but never admit it, sometimes not even to themselves.

When you already have nine children, another one won't usually cost that much. You can breastfeed, and save the cost of formula. You can usually find an organization that will donate diapers, and with that many children, it should be easy for you to get help. That's what they are there for. A new baby doesn't need much in the way of material goods. You probably already have the clothes and furniture. If you don't have a crib, a new baby can sleep in a dresser drawer in your room, or even in your bed, for awhile. You can get help with the material problems by finding a pregnancy center near you. To find one, go here: pregnancycenters.org. They can also provide counseling. Please know that not wanting to be pregnant is common in early pregnancy, and it's partly a hormonal thing. By the time you give birth, you will love your baby and be eager to hold him or her in your arms.

In the meantime, find out all you can about abortion, about the development of your baby, and all the other issues connected with it. Perhaps you are not aware of how violent abortion is for the baby. It's something you need to think about. The more you know, the happier you will be with your decision, whatever it is.

If you feel your life is chaos with so many children, I'll be happy to let you pick my brain. :) Even though we only had seven, our life really went quite smoothly, because everyone helped out, and they should. It's good for them. They knew they were responsible for getting along with each other, and I'm proud to say that now that they are adults, they have so much love for each other that when one is in need, they live together to help cut expenses, even the married ones! I have forgotten how many different arrangements like this they have had. We also did homeschool them, and that helped a lot, but even if you don't do that, there is much you can do to make sure your household runs smoothly.

Good luck with this. You will be in our prayers.

Hugs,
Pat



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