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Date Posted: 11:53:03 08/09/06 Wed
Author: Rose Marie Zizzo
Subject: Re: Exposing CFA 's deep hidden secrets
In reply to: P-CBS.ORG 's message, "Exposing CFA 's deep hidden secrets" on 12:58:15 05/30/05 Mon

Lollimops Cattery shares verbatim how
P-CBS.ORG has effected her life
All verbatim from Lollimops
Part 2

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"This letter is to those of you that have been to the "other" website which we will shall not name here, and have seen the horrible things posted there about me; [Read] where the self-appointed "queen of the cat police" reigns supreme, she thinks, but not for long! Why does this person think she has any authority to poke her nose into other people's lives? She doesn't, so I have no idea why she does it and wish someone would clue me in. I am praying daily that she self-combusts. I would like to tell my side of the story but that is not possible with this person. She only posts her side and it is always a very warped, illiterate, confusing version. To view her website is to look into the miasma of a chaotic mind.


About me
I have been breeding cats since 1984. I have an excellent record with CFA until this person came along and still do since CFA threw out her complaints. I keep in touch with most of my kitten buyers and several have come back for more. Breeding cats, especially Persians is not easy. In fact it is the hardest thing I have ever done. To keep them all groomed is a huge chore [Read] to say nothing of the daily feeding and watering and cage cleaning. To keep them all well at the same time is an even bigger challenge.
I have a very healthy clan, very little upper respiratory, and once in awhile a little diarrhea [Read]I think usually due to our water. Most of my kittens survive and grow into adulthood. No herpes, no chlamydia, no calici a few times FIP in 20 years and what breeder hasn't had it? All of the kittens that died of this disease were in homes with other cats, none have ever died here so it would be impossible to know where they picked up the virus. I practice the early weaning technique promoted by Dr. Addie so they should have come from here without the virus.


Preventative measures
Yes, I did my homework. Years ago when I started breeding, I called code enforcement to make sure I was not violating any laws; [Read] they assured me I was fine. After talking again to the code enforcement officer, she told me there are new laws that none of them approve of. When I told her about what was happening to me with this person and sent her to the website, she was shocked that this person already had a copy of the code enforcement officers report up on her crazy website, a day after I had received it! This officer demanded to know how this person got the report since it was confidential; I explained that I was hoping she could tell me. I thought I was going to have to place most of my cats in other homes but this officer was so appalled by what she saw on that crazy website that she dismissed the case against me and is now alerted to what this person is doing and will be watching for more of her shenanigans. I almost had to dismantle my breeding program and find homes for my cats just because of this nut case refusing to educate herself and act like a valuable member of society. She is so full of hate and vindictiveness she cannot function without causing harm to others. Why does someone like this think they have the right to destroy the life of others? I am not sure but she has been at it for the three years that I have known her and that makes me think this has been her life style for a very long time. She hides behind the mantle of being a Christian but there is nothing about her that is remotely Christ-like, no light in her eyes, no lift in her soul, no love in her heart and no Holy Spirit in her being.


No blame
No breeder or cat owner ever wants to hear that word, FIP and no breeder breeds to have their babies die, and the most any of us can do is offer to replace the kitten if this happens. Most of us understand the anger and need to place blame if someone's kitten dies of FIP but it really is not about who is at fault, because no one is, and it is not about blame. These are all little living things, ultimately God is in control we just do the very best we can. Most of us are intelligent enough to research and learn about any disease that threatens us. We need to all support each other and the research that may some day may give us a cure or a better way to prevent this disease. We all need to be supportive of any breeder who has had FIP hit one of their kittens or their cattery. It is not their fault. There is no way to prevent it other than early weaning and that is definitely not a 100% effective. Fingers need not be pointed because it could happen to you and it is devastating.


Abuse, slander and false information
Now to address the abuse on that other website. It is a sad day for all of us that this person has nothing better to do with their time than harass others, slander them and defame their character and destroy their lives. Most of the information on her website is false and misleading at best, at worst it is outright lies. She has posted all kinds of false and misleading information on her website and for the pet owner this could be devastating. She has made no attempt to check her information or to educate herself. She uses the fact that she has dubbed herself president of this website to obtain information that she should not have. This is an abuse of power, power she has given herself, nothing that is official. And this is fraud since her organization does not really exist except in her mind.


Mis-representation
I sold this person one cat and traded her for two others. Believe me that is before I knew what a kook she is. I later heard from other breeders that she had never finished paying for the cats she got from them. She represented herself to me as a "newbie" so I of course offered to mentor as well as start her up. Come to find out she has been in the breeding business for over ten years, and has treated everyone she has done business with very badly. The first cat she ever bought for breeding died at the age of 4 years and she demanded that the breeder replace it, 4 years later! [Read] Where does one draw the line? Where does she become responsible? She has trouble getting along in society because I suspect she is mentally unstable. She told me she has no friends and does not socialize. She is constantly giving out false information on her location, her motives and her phone number. When she offers to do things for you, be suspicious because she always has an ulterior motive.


The kitten
The one cat that she bought from me and actually paid for she put down a year later without running any tests. [Read] She told me in an email that the cat had been sick for two weeks, on her website she says 8 weeks. Why did she not take this poor cat to the vet during that time? Then she tells me the cat died of FIP. She had this cat for a year. Now keep in mind that she had 14 other cats all living together in a travel trailer, talk about stress, which is the trigger for FIP. All of these other cats more than likely each had their own strain of corona virus. Exposing a young kitten with an immature immune system, especially one raised almost in a bubble, to all those different strains was in this case lethal and irresponsible. But since no necropsy (autopsy/post mortem) was ever done. We will never know for sure why she put this cat to sleep, she is at best just guessing it was FIP. There is no proof to back up her claim. But she immediately, in the same email, demanded a replacement of a different color. Two of my friend suspect that she just put the cat down because she wanted a solid lilac instead of the chocolate tortie point. I truly hope that was not the reason.


Contractual agreement
She has to date refused to follow her contractual agreement with me in order to receive a replacement, and because of that I am paying dearly. She says I "frauded" her with my contract, let's remember she took and used this same contract on her own website for over a year.my contract [Read] very clear in stating that I cannot be held responsible for the diseases that other cats carry if there is another cat in the household. And isn't that fair? What breeder wants to be held accountable for a problem that another cat may be harboring and will infect the kitten from your cattery with? And if you do not test your cats for everything when you get them then you cannot know the origin of your problem, and you cannot blame the breeder that you got the cat from if you are not going to do the responsible thing. This is double insurance, protects you and protects the breeder you got the cat from since you will know immediately any problems or diseases the cat may have. But sadly it has been nearly impossible to get this person to comprehend this, or to understand much of anything else. My contract does state you need to test the cat within 72 hours of receiving it or the health warrantee is null and void. She did not do this. If she wanted a replacement an autopsy needed to be done by a county facility, which would be unbiased and have trained pathologists to perform the autopsy. This was not done either. I have never received an autopsy/necropsy (post mortem) report from this person because one was never done. She lied about this too. She told CFA that she had one; they have not received it nor have I. So let's see, she voided her contract with me on a total of 6 separate issues; no necropsy, no vet check or testing when she received the kitten, other cats were present, failed to pay for the kitten on time, she documented nothing. and the term length of the health warrantee had long since expired.


Harassment
This person has filed two complaints with CFA, two with the BBB (which has advised me and her that they do not handle these kinds of complaints), and one to the Attorney General of the State of CA. on which she lied about everything even where she lives, and she turned me into the State Board of Equalization for not paying sales tax on my kitten sales. And in just the last month she has sent animal control, the humane society, and code enforcement to my door. None of these agencies found anything wrong except code enforcement which claims I have to many cats, and what breeder doesn't? And I have one more than this person had in her travel trailer. Being over the over the limit means I would have to have them gone within two weeks, but as I explained the code enforcement officer was so appalled at what she saw on that website that she dismissed the case against me. They also sent a copy to my landlord, who was couldnt believe that someone would be so vicious. He thinks this is a perfect place to breed cats, a house, alone on a hill. She is making most of these complaints in names other than her own or anonymously, so they do not know it is the same person, and on these complaints she is lying about where she lives and her phone number and the things she is complaining about. She certainly is not smart enough to figure out that she is wasting the taxpayer's money on frivolous and unfounded complaints just to satisfy her need for vengeance. And if she has to lie then she must not be proud of what she is doing and does know somewhere in that mind of hers that what she is doing is wrong, why else would she not stand up and be counted? She also reports the other breeders at the same time, so when we compare what is going on, animal control, code enforcement, and the humane society all came on the same day to our homes, and we live in different counties. We all got the letters from the Attorney General at the same time, and complaints to the State Board of Equalization at the same time. Is she so stupid that she cannot figure out that this nails her as the perpetrator?
The county has advised me that they can and will subpoena her phone records and move to recover any monies spent that could be better used elsewhere, like on the fire equipment we so desperately needed a few months ago. Is this a normal person? Ask yourself who in his or her right mind goes to all this trouble to ruin someone's life over a cat? Especially when she refuses to honor her word on a contract that she read, agreed with and signed and even used as her own on her website for over a year. This is just more proof of her dishonesty and attempt to fraud after the fact. When she doesn't get her way, watch out, she throws a temper tantrum and will report you for all the mistakes SHE has made.


Slander
Worst of all, at the beginning of Jan. she posted on her site that I had been arrested, was in jail and all my cats confiscated. She even called Linda Berg at CFA and told her. Then when she couldn't come up with any paper work to back her up she claimed that the city officials made the mistake and confused me with someone else. Oh right, they mistook my name for someone else's. I do not for one minute believe this one especially since I know a lot of the "city officials" and they were outraged when I told them what she had accused them off. So you ask, is she trolling the city archives and the court records? Yes I believe that is exactly what she is doing. I have never been in trouble in my life, have never been in jail, and have never had animal control called on me, I have even worked at the police department here in town and have been in business for myself for over twenty years, fifteen of those I owned my own hair salon, she has lived on SSI all her life for mental disablity. I think you will notice that the reports from animal control and the humane society are conspicuously absent. Why is that? Because they found nothing wrong here so she can't use them against me, but I know she sent them to my door and she told them lies about me to get them out here. I had them read the reports to me.


More harassment
She has taken out ads on Yahoo when I run ads for my kittens, telling people not to buy from me and directing them to her website to read all her garbage. She actually pays for these sick ads. She claims to be telling the truth, but nothing about her is the truth, and her idea of verbatim is change a little here and there to make it look better for her. And how can we tell this, by her poor grammar, her misspelled words and her illiteracy. But in every instance Yahoo has been notified and they immediately removed her ads and advised her of their policy. But she keeps doing it because she never learns. She also places ads in another location slandering all of us there also, but on that site there does not seem to be a moderator or responsible person, but you should hear how they talk about her on the message board there. We have also had three of her websites taken down because of content, but her ISP now believes this is freedom of speech.


Where are her cats now?
When she gets tired of her own cats she dumps them at the local shelter, an all kill shelter that empties out the cages every Fri afternoon. She has done this on three separate occasions, which she talks about on her website. I ask you, is this something that someone who professes to "love and respect kitties," does to her own cats? She expects you to report abuse and death to her; someone who cares so little for her own cats that she dumped them at a shelter that was going to kill them. And she dumped one of mine there last June along with several others, and when I made arrangements to have all of them picked up, she harassed the shelter so much that they charged us three times the normal amount to get the cats back. Yes, I have the proof from the shelter. This proceeded to make her even angrier with me. I am wondering now if she thinks that is the appropriate place for my cats too since we know she called code enforcement on me. In order not to be in violation I would have to give them away or place them in the shelter. Does that fit the claim she makes on her website where she says we must respect the kitties, and report death and abuse. Is this not death and abuse taking the cats away from the only home they have ever known and putting them in a shelter full of disease and where if they do not find a home they will be killed? She obviously did not think this one through since it clearly shows she cares nothing for the cats; absolutely nothing or she wouldn't be placing them in such jeopardy, even to satisfy her own hate and greed for vengeance. Once again, animal control found my cats to be healthy and beautiful. She is not about to let you know that since it is a positive report and does not fit her need to be hateful and negative.


What she did to help her cat
NOTHING!
She got a beautiful show quality chocolate tortie point from me. Those of you who breed for these colors know how rare that is. She killed the cat with no testing what so ever two weeks after she championed it. Just put her down and disposed of the body, this is what her vet bill shows, and then demanded a replacement of another color. No necropsy was ever performed as required by my contract. She knew the cat was sick for 8 weeks but never took her to the vet except to put her down. This is so tragic to me, if I had only known maybe I could have saved her life. She doesn't bother to explain that she had 14 other cats in the small travel trailer where she lived, brought in from all over the country. None of them tested and none of them separated. How can she prove where this cat picked up this virus if indeedthat is what it was? I have been in contact with a very good friend of one of the other breeders that this person got cats from. I have learned that this person has had many loses to FIP, even whole litters lost before they are old enough to leave to go to their new homes and has had to replace kittens after they were sold and in their new homes. That does not mean this breeder is responsible for what happened to my kitten, just that it is a possibility they brought in a lethal strain. If you have a new kitten with an immature immune system you should never place it directly on the floor with adult cats that have medical problems. I was told on several occasions by this person about the many upper respiratory problems she had in her cattery, and the ongoing diarrhea in one cat. She told me about one litter of kittens that she was "just waiting for them all to die" because they had an upper respiratory and their noses were so clogged they couldn't smell so had quit eating. They were 8 weeks old and she was just waiting for them to die? Is this humane? Is this not abuse? Had she never heard of antibiotics? Or force-feeding? Did she never think to take them to her vet? She has even sold a kitten that died of FIP. That person has contacted me and I have talked to her. What did the lunatic do? She became abusive to the person and called her a liar and told her she didn't know what FIP was.


About FIP
Most of us breeders know that if you breed cats you are going to hit FIP. What a devastating thing for all involved. Even the big cats in Africa and the zoos are not exempt. There is no way to prevent it, cure it or predict which cats will get it or even diagnose it correctly without an autopsy. Cats are the only species with this kind of disease. It is not an "inherited" disease, it is a virus, and one cannot inherit a virus. Catteries are not infected with it because it is a cat-by-cat immune response to the corona virus. It has been estimated that 90-95% of all cats carry this virus but most cats do not get sick. It is an immune-mediated disease meaning that the immune system attacks itself. There is absolutely no way to know which cats or kittens will get sick after contacting this virus because it can cause disease immediately or many years later or more than likely, never at all. This virus mutates and has as many generations in 24 hours as we have had on this earth. We cannot protect against it or cure it because it is always changing and mutating. When the DNA was mapped, it proved to have the largest RNA in the world and every cat, even kittens in the same litter, had a different strain. It is passed on thru the feces of an infected, virus-shedding cat, which is not necessarily a sick cat. You can run a blood test to check the titer status but that is no indication that the cat has FIP or will ever get sick with FIP, only that it has been exposed to corona virus. A lot of vets still think this means a death sentence and will recommend putting the cat down but most cats even with a high titer value go on to live long healthy lives and many can even clear the virus from their systems.
When a cat owner says, my other cat is perfectly healthy. That may well be, but do they know if it is carrying this virus? Most cat owners do not and do not even know what FIP is. It is thought to affect adversely less than 5% of the cat population and young kittens are most at risk Most vets are quick to blame the breeder because most of them have not kept up on the latest research information and do not understand this disease. Breeders are not any more at fault than anyone else. But we, the breeders are the ones in the "trenches" experiencing first hand how this virus acts, the vets only see what is already dying, or lab test results. I will refer you to the websites where the foremost researchers make recommendations on how to raise your kittens, and what has been learned about this disease in the last few years. This person gives out false and misleading information about FIP because she knows nothing about it and has made no attempt to learn anything. It is sad that the average pet owner may believe what she has to say and be completely misled. If your cat dies of something, research it yourself do not take the word of someone else.


Blackmail
She has offered to end all of this if I will pay her; [Read] to stop harassing me by sending animal control to my door every few weeks, the humane society, or code enforcement. By stopping all the complaints to the better business bureau, CFA, and the Attorney General. Isn't blackmail illegal? Why should I pay her for being irresponsible and stupid? She violated every clause in my contract, and does not practice good husbandry, has refused to educate herself about her cats health and is now trying to force me into paying her for her mistakes by threatening my home, my cat's lives, my health, my reputation, my dreams and my reality. But would it stop if I paid her? Or like any other blackmailer, would it just escalate with her wanting more and more and making more and more threats. And ask yourself, what if something went wrong with the next cat I give her due to her ineptitude and negligence? And do you seriously think I would send another cat into that?


Her threat to all breeders everywhere
And last but not least she is promoting a "clandestine buyers" [Read] club, which encourages people to shop their local papers for cat breeders, go to their homes and then report back to her so she can turn them in, probably to every organization that she has turned me in to. She is also very clear about encouraging people to sue breeders for all their "worldly possessions" if things do not go the way they want, and she names all the possessions you should sue for, like homes, SUV's, jewelry, property, stocks and bonds and the list goes on. Is a cat, even a top show cat worth all of these things? Is this really how we Christians, which she professes to be, treat each other?


Her latest
She has sent letters to local veterinarians soliciting complaints against the breeders she has listed on her on nasty website. She is encouraging them to tell their patients to file complaints on her website against the breeders she has listed and calls herself the president of this bogus club. HA, what a laugh. Breeders everywhere and now I assume vets want nothing to do with her. When she spammed all the listers with her site she got nothing but negative comments in her guest book, so she took it down. She just never gets it.


Are you a breeder?
Be prepared for the fight of your life if she gets your name, address, cattery name, or email address. She is out to put you out of business and she makes that very clear. She has made being a breeder something no one wants to be. Several catteries have closed this week in my area because they are afraid of this person and how she has destroyed my life. But I am not the only one; she is doing these same things to two others that I personally know of. I would assume that this is all out of jealousy. What other motive could there be? I do not think this is what The Cat Fancier's Association wants for us. CFA already has a huge file on her. She has been banned from CFA but is pushing to get her cattery name back, but when everything she does is contrary to CFA's mission do you think they are going to let that happen? Shows you how stupid she really is. Incredibly she has already taken the paragraph from this letter entitled "Her threat to all breeders everywhere" and posted it on her website as my testimony to her site's mission. . Nothing could be further from the truth. Ironic that the only thing here that interested her is what promotes her own personal war of hate on breeders, no interest in the welfare of the cats at stake but I guess we already know how she really feels about cats. I am not testifying to anything except that she is crazy and scary. And where she has this posted she states it is "verbtim" I think she means verbatim, which it is not since she left out the first several 1000 words. I am warning you, she is out there. I have won the battles. and now I am going to win the war! If you have comments about that site and want them published email me and I will post them here. If you have had trouble with her contact me and I will tell you who to get in touch with."
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Written verbatim by Lollimops 9/13/04 "I am extremely hopeful that you will have immediately realized just by looking at what is written by this person, that she is severally disturbed. Her site is NOT anything official [Registerd Legal Corporation] [Read] and has nothing to do with protecting cats. It is her personal vendetta theater. When she does not get her way she makes up lies and posts them on her site in order to try to force those of us who refuse to be manipulated, into seeing things her way. Her rambling illiterate diatribes and her chaotic thought patterns are unmistakable for that of a mentally ill person. Most of the postings are not true or she has re-written them(even official documents) to fit her agenda. She has been stalking and harassing many of us and me in particular, for the last several years. The Cat Fancier's Association Inc. (CFA) voted to suspend her for life for this behavior (June board meeting minutes) and also suspended her in Oct 2002 for the fact that when she tires of her cats she simply dumps them (three different times in 6 years, even pregnant females) at her local kill shelter or has them destroyed, I know because one of mine was dumped(but we rescued her) and one destroyed. If you have any questions about what is written about me or any of the others, please feel free to email me at lollimops@yahoo.com , I will be happy to answer all of your questions and yes, I have tons of accurate and official documentation to back up the truth. I can also refer you to another website that exposes her misdeeds and lies, and I am equally sure that CFA will be happy to answer any of your questions regarding this matter, you may contact their animal welfare officer thru their website at www.cfainc.org or call them at 732-528-9797. Remember that it is her credibility that is in question since she is the one that has been banned by this organization and says so on her site. I have a CFA Cattery of Excellence Award, and in order to recieve this award my cattery had to be inspected and meet certain requirements. I am in hopes that this statement does not scare you away or make you go looking for her site if you havent already been there. Thanks for your support and understanding in all of this."
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1/7/05
"Rosemarie Zizzo of the pcb-s.org is posting these reports all over the internet on different sites in your name and in your mother's name. Check out the guestbook at www.annahappy.com If you posted this then you will be named in the complaint to the FBI, if you did not then you need to complain to them yourself that she is using your name to file false complaints.... that is identity theft and proscecutable. Heads up, you have been dealing with a dishonest, highly deranged lunatic." Written By Melanie Lowry of Lollimops Himalayans to Rene & Bill Carr, the person who made the complaint against her.

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