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Date Posted: 20:11:17 05/20/02 Mon
Author: OTWB
Subject: Right up there with .....
In reply to: Llanviewer 's message, "ICAM with both of you Candy and Lafaux. btw -I reread and I sure wasn't very clear -the "certain fans" I am referring to are the same ones that used the "unforgivable DBL" argument anytime a T&B fan might have expressed the opinion that they would liked to see their couple work it out and stay together. I'm thinking certain T&T fans were blowing smoke up my ass when they were arguing that I shouldn't want T&B together because the DBL was unforgivable -and now today Blair should be more forgiving. LOL!!" on 19:54:57 05/20/02 Mon

If Blair forgives him, she's destroyed, she's a laydown, she's spineless.. She's RUINED, ruined for life!!!! Todd is a terrible monster, he's without heart, it's the most hideous thing anybody could do to anyone that they love!!! Leave him, Blair! Leave him.

Now, she's a big fat bully. Thank God, TeUGH's going to step in and save him from her. Thank God, TeUGH can save him from himself.... It's all Blair's fault, the bitch!

BTW, I wanted them to work it out, I thought that they could, but well... it might have required them to do it in more than thirty second sound bites, without the rest of Llanview being propped and where's the fun in that?

It's clear to me, that they won't work it out, so the least they could do is turn it into a righteous WAR starring TODD AND BLAIR, they can't even do that, they gotta bring meddling trolls into things. It's never really been about Todd and Blair, anyway, why would the end be any different?

You know, old Billie was right! Kill all the lawyers, kill'em tonight! (Don Henley, "Get Over It")

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[> [> [> Hey Cabbie -thanks for immediately running to ATB to tattle on me.... -- Llanviewer, 21:21:29 05/20/02 Mon

Hey Cabbie -since you felt the need to run and post about MY comment on the ATB board please be truthful. You said to them that, "they are confused as to how "we" feel".

See -it isn't THEY -it was only ME. ....and as far as the "we" thing goes -you know I didn't mean all the T&Ters there. I made it VERY clear it wasn't everyone and that I was just venting. Gee -I hate to give props -but Jackie for one has been pretty darn consistent in regard to what I was yammering on about and I wasn't talking about her at all.

You also said, "I guess they were trying to be too classy" in regard to naming names. Once again -not THEY -only ME. I wasn't trying to be classy -I guess I didn't expect you to run to the board and tell them I was talking about all of them or I would have.

Sorry to clog up the boards with this Candy and Lafaux. I guess I learned a lesson!


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[> [> [> [> My apologies... I really did find the issue interesting .... -- Cabbie, 21:43:14 05/20/02 Mon

... the concept of forgiveness not necessarily being inconsistent with NOT pressing charges.

I wasn't naming names either! So the "they" was meant to be 'general'. And people agreed with you - so clearly there's more than one person who feel as you do.

No tattling ... but you know, don't forget, I'm basically evil AND stupid and nothing I say is correct OR accurate so consider the source and move on.


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[> [> [> [> [> Well gee -I knew it wouldn't kill me to start up my aerobics class again but I didn't realize that "ME" was as big as an entire "FANBASE" -such lumpage! I took great pains to use the words SOME and CERTAIN to make myself clear that it wasn't all T&T fans. Gee, I thought it was only nasty T&Bers that kept the war going? No need to apologize -I was the one in the wrong -I really, really should have known better. -- Llanviewer, 23:17:28 05/20/02 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> [> There is no "war," it's a family feud. Think a big old picnic with the various families .... and they're shooting at each other from behind overturned picnic tables. Anyways, sometimes, people like to jump into the feud just to be part of the crowd ... so if you want to throw some food, expect to get some back! -- Satanic Cabbie Dishing out Potato Salad At the Family Feud, 23:22:19 05/20/02 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> tsk tsk Don't lecture me -food fights can be fun! -but when I throw food at a couple people I don't expect someone to run and cry to mommy that I threw food at the whole crowd. Sorry -you got caught with pie on your face -don't blame me. -- Llanviewer, 23:33:17 05/20/02 Mon

Re: There is no "war," it's a family feud. Think a big old picnic with the various families .... and they're shooting at each other from behind overturned picnic tables. Anyways, sometimes, people like to jump into the feud just to be part of the crowd ... so if you want to throw some food, expect to get some back!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> WHATEVER!!!! LOL! Woweeeeeee..... -- Cabbie, 23:45:23 05/20/02 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> ROFLMAOPIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wowweeee and WHATEVER are RIGHT! -- Llanviewer, 23:58:29 05/20/02 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I think I'm in the twilight zone. Goodnight, whoever you are!! Perhaps things will be allllllll better for you tomorrow .......... easy, now .... -- Satanic Cabbie, 00:08:20 05/21/02 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> yes Cabbie......thank you for the sincere well wishes......you get your rest.........all that spinning was bound to tire you out......... -- Llanviewer, 00:41:19 05/21/02 Tue


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[> [> [> [> You and your buddies have been screeching about "how you feel" for years on EVERY message board you can spam. So, if we're confused, your buddies must be less than articulate, or we must have become deafened by TeUGH's LAST stint in Llanview. Maybe it's because the spin changes with whichever way the wind blows.... whose to say? -- OTWB, 22:24:13 05/20/02 Mon

>Hey Cabbie -since you felt the need to run and post
>about MY comment on the ATB board please be truthful.
>You said to them that, "they are confused as to how
>"we" feel".
>
>See -it isn't THEY -it was only ME. ....and as far as
>the "we" thing goes -you know I didn't mean all the
>T&Ters there. I made it VERY clear it wasn't everyone
>and that I was just venting. Gee -I hate to give
>props -but Jackie for one has been pretty darn
>consistent in regard to what I was yammering on about
>and I wasn't talking about her at all.
>
>You also said, "I guess they were trying to be too
>classy" in regard to naming names. Once again -not
>THEY -only ME. I wasn't trying to be classy -I guess
>I didn't expect you to run to the board and tell them
>I was talking about all of them or I would have.
>
>Sorry to clog up the boards with this Candy and
>Lafaux. I guess I learned a lesson!


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[> [> [> [> Llanviewer, No need to apologize! -- Lafaux, 02:10:32 05/21/02 Tue

You haven't posted anything on this board that you have to apologize for. I am glad that you felt you could come here to vent.


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[> [> [> [> [> Thanks Lafaux -much appreciated -it felt good! -- Llanviewer, 12:47:17 05/21/02 Tue

>You haven't posted anything on this board that you
>have to apologize for. I am glad that you felt you
>could come here to vent.


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[> [> [> Maybe Cabbie thinks you're profound. First they copy your posts to the board, then they mock them.... then they spin it around, spin it into some lame crap that it isn't then give each other a high five.... It's kind of cool, actually, it means they gotta bring it home to kill it. You really haven't arrived though, until they accuse you of worshipping Satan. . -- OTWB, 21:47:17 05/20/02 Mon

>If Blair forgives him, she's destroyed, she's a
>laydown, she's spineless.. She's RUINED, ruined for
>life!!!! Todd is a terrible monster, he's without
>heart, it's the most hideous thing anybody could do to
>anyone that they love!!! Leave him, Blair! Leave him.
>
>Now, she's a big fat bully. Thank God, TeUGH's going
>to step in and save him from her. Thank God, TeUGH can
>save him from himself.... It's all Blair's fault, the
>bitch!
>
>BTW, I wanted them to work it out, I thought that they
>could, but well... it might have required them to do
>it in more than thirty second sound bites, without the
>rest of Llanview being propped and where's the fun in
>that?
>
>It's clear to me, that they won't work it out, so the
>least they could do is turn it into a righteous WAR
>starring TODD AND BLAIR, they can't even do that, they
>gotta bring meddling trolls into things. It's never
>really been about Todd and Blair, anyway, why would
>the end be any different?
>
>You know, old Billie was right! Kill all the
>lawyers, kill'em tonight! (Don Henley, "Get Over
>It")


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[> [> [> [> Yeah ... well, I'm the real Satan. Me and my buds. I copy posts all the time from other boards ... and mock them ...I love to do it. I do it though because I've been banned from so many boards ...and can't actually GO to the source and respond. -- Cabbie, 21:56:31 05/20/02 Mon

I know ... it's all the flaming I do!! Bad me!!!


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[> [> [> [> [> what hypocrisy,,,,the only place that bans people is your prozed laughing stock board, ATB filled with some of the most unconscious drivel I have ever seen and if you are remotely pro TNB you are banned...MD and ATB swamp lands of hypocrites whining just like fave. Horrid, fetid and not worth sh**. -- A7, 22:22:08 05/20/02 Mon

what a laugh...that you would take any posts anywhere and mock them...perhaps the word is out what most of the industry does with the MD posts....or the priceless frozen food board ATB....if you only knew!!!!!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> A7.................................. -- ladyday, 22:37:07 05/20/02 Mon

I thought the DBL was the death of T&B (for me....and I blame the writers, not the characters).....BUT I AM PRO T&B! I am a T&B'er. Make no mistake. I post at ATB all the time. Jackie (one of my favorite "targets" in the past) very clearly states at the top of her board what is and is not allowed there. If you follow the "house rules" you won't get deleted or banned. I don't T&B or Blair gush there, and I don't tell them they are FOS for liking Tea. I discuss other aspects of the show with them. It's so simple really.

"what hypocrisy,,,,the only place that bans people is your prozed laughing stock board"
A7 you couldn't be more wrong. Totally wrong.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Ladyday, most fair...and what of MD? -- A7, 00:50:13 05/21/02 Tue

>I thought the DBL was the death of T&B (for me....and
>I blame the writers, not the characters).....BUT I AM
>PRO T&B! I am a T&B'er. Make no mistake. I post at ATB
>all the time. Jackie (one of my favorite "targets" in
>the past) very clearly states at the top of her board
>what is and is not allowed there. If you follow the
>"house rules" you won't get deleted or banned. I don't
>T&B or Blair gush there, and I don't tell them they
>are FOS for liking Tea. I discuss other aspects of the
>show with them. It's so simple really.
>
>"what hypocrisy,,,,the only place that bans people is
>your prozed laughing stock board"
>A7 you couldn't be more wrong. Totally wrong.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Never go there. I stay away from places that piss me off. -- ladyday, 05:09:04 05/21/02 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> Gee, Cabbie. I didni't realize that it was such a hobby. I usually restrain myself from reposting from other boards just so I can tear down the posters for being off their proverbial MEDS. Actually, it happens from time to time at the Knoll, but it's not my favorite thing. Maybe I should rethink that! It could be a lot of fun. -- OTWB, 22:27:32 05/20/02 Mon

>I know ... it's all the flaming I do!! Bad me!!!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Oh yes..... if you visit ATB, there you will see all the posts from other boards ... copied and pasted. I've been campaigning to get a special Copy, Paste and Humiliation Board up ... but I can't get the support. So I just keep it right on ATB. That way everyone gets a chance to read the Copies, Pastes and Humiliations. More hits!! -- Satanic Cabbie Who Thinks of Lots of People When She Watches the Soap, 22:43:19 05/20/02 Mon


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[> [> [> [> Kinda like all those profound thoughts in your Flames and Games folder Liz? -- ladyday, 22:05:39 05/20/02 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> Yeah, like that. I actually rarely if ever move posts from one board to another. Other's do it, though. I delete it, I get crap for "censoring" folks. I leave it up, I get crap for being mean to other posters with differing ideas. Lose/lose... judgement calls are a bitch. I've always thought it best to come up with your own ideas for discussion, but mabye I should stop discouraging crap like that and just go with it. Some folks enjoy the blood, but I actually prefer discussion.. -- OTWB, 22:31:57 05/20/02 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> [> I enjoy some vascular verbiage myself. -- ladyday, 22:48:30 05/20/02 Mon

It must be really hard riding herd on a board as huge as Totally Toddian.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Well after all these years, I find it kind of boring... but there are places for that kind of thing, and I'm all everybody having something. -- OTWB, 09:03:34 05/21/02 Tue

>It must be really hard riding herd on a board as huge
>as Totally Toddian.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Ah yes, the old days! It IS good for everybody to have something to hold onto. -- ladyday, 11:16:33 05/21/02 Tue


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[> [> [> The Twitty Just Like To Use THE Most Expedient Argument To Get Their TnT3 Agenda Fulfilled. -- SkinTheKat - Soap Buff Uber Alles, 17:46:08 05/22/02 Wed

Blair FORGIVING Todd providing CERTAIN CONDITIONS are met would BE the best scenario. After all, they now share TWO children together and it's not like STARR, at least is too young to remember her father. It's not like JACK is an only child who would not soon wonder why his big sister can see his father and HE can't. Children of Divorce do NOT thrive the way children of stable marriages do.

So, Blair demanding that Todd see a REAL therapist and NOT Dr. RAEzorHead Cummings who he could easily con and get off his back AND insisting that he go to Parents Anonymous Meetings for the rest of his natural life makes THE most sense.

But THAT responsible position would be pooh-poohed by the Twitty as Blair being some Abuse Sucking IDIOT. Best that Blair tear apart her family to throw him to the loving arms of the TROLL.

And once the Troll appears on the screen, she'll have to RESCUE Todd and LIBERATE Blair's children from Mean Old Unforgiving Blair, because NOW she is NOT putting her children first and THAT makes her a Bad Mommy. I've SEEN that stupid hustle play out before.

All I have to say is whether or not Blair forgives Todd, the LAST thing he needs is some ENABLER to help him contine with his stupid stunts. I don't CARE about the troll. Yes, she is ALSO one of Todd's victims, but it seems toME like she VOLUNTEERED for that detail. Like Téa, BLAIR has a choice to either suck it up, or refuse to put up with it. I care, because there ARE CHILDREN INVOLVED. And yes, Cabbie et al, I'm AWARE they are FICTIONAL, but there it is.

Starr as Todd's Adoring Mini Me and Jack as some Biddable Baby are CUTE right now. But there IS going to come a time when they are going to want their OWN way and they WILL disappoint TODD. This is NOT a healthy situation for them to be raised by a father THEY DARE NOT DISAPPOINT. If STARR takes up with and is impregnated by some boy that Todd disapproves of... what is there to keep him from disposing of HER baby and telling her it was dead. Same as if Jack impregnates some GIRL that Todd doesn't like.

I don't care WHICH woman Todd ends up with, he is never going to be viable with ANYONE if he doesn't face some CONSEQUENCES and is never punished for his misdeeds.

Yeah, Blair LIED TO TODD. AGAIN. But it was up to Todd how he would CHOOSE to react to it. He COULD have simply allowed Blair to leave town, taken the daughter he already HAD sole custody of and went off to find the troll again to raise her. He had NO right to take Blair's baby, dispose of it and tell her he was dead, even IF he did it because he believed a lie she had told him.

The Onus of Reponsibility for Todd's ACTIONS are on TODD.


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