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Date Posted: 21:36:09 11/27/04 Sat
Author: vaughn
Subject: Re: Doping the final mathematical solution
In reply to: hi-c 's message, "Re: Doping the final mathematical solution" on 14:17:40 11/27/04 Sat

Bingo on Pound hi-c
I do believe that we can have a drug free sport and Sports.
But it won't be through witch hunts and without an understanding of what it will take. And one of the things it will take is the end of this endless drivel that it is necessary or ok for a champion to use dope to win. It undermines the very process of getting to a position where the pro riders themselves can and do refuse to use drugs.
Party on Clean!

well, the river keeps on rolling as they say. a
>champion is a champion in my book and i wouldn't think
>any less of one if he did or didn't dope. taking drugs
>will not make you a champion. having the drive of a
>champion, the work ethic of a champion, the dedication
>of a champion , and then after all of that being able
>to capitalize on the luck and opportunity generated by
>that ethic and dedication might give you a shot, and
>even then you still gotta close the deal and learn how
>to win. drugs won't make you a champion. cheating may
>win you a race or two but won't make you a champion. i
>would think less of a "champion" however if he didn't
>use everything at his disposal to push the edge and
>became greater than he ever thought possible. this may
>or may not include drugs/lying but in my view
>drugs/lying are such a small component in that great
>secret journey that champions must make i don't see
>how i could notice a spot of ink on the sun.
>i can understand support for dick pound if your view
>is soley to eliminate doping. then his fire and
>brimstone approach may seem a long awaited solution.
>but on a larger scale he's just as ethically
>challenged as anyone he's accusing which is why i
>can't take him seriously. not to mention his total
>lack of understanding and disregard for the sport. and
>i wish he were merely a messenger. but he's quite a
>bit more than that and none of good that i can see. if
>he were a building inspector he'd deem the leaning
>tower a dangerous structure and knock it down. and
>that's all i see him doing -fucking shit up. there's
>nothing positive in his message or his actions. but i
>hope i'm wrong. i stil have an open, though
>increasingly biased, mind. we may disagree on this but
>we do agree on our love for the sport. long live
>cycling . party on.

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