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Date Posted: 11:13:14 09/22/04 Wed
Author: Lady Lurker
Subject: Re: Notice the silence from those who did the slaughtering...
In reply to: z-dog 's message, "Re: Notice the silence from those who did the slaughtering..." on 10:32:03 09/22/04 Wed

>>How can the jury
>>still be out on Hamilton and yet it's definite that
>>anyone was unfair to Prentice Steffen?
>>
>>If Steffen had/has any proof, he should make it
>>available to all. Apparently he has no proof. So his
>>memory as well as possible misinterpretation of what
>>Tyler and Jemison may have been asking for are still
>>issues. Steffen wasn't "slaughtered," not by a long
>>shot. His comments were inflammatory short of proof
>>backing up what he said.
>
>Your opinion, your spin, your mantra. We've heard it a
>million times.

No, it's not mine. It is a part of American values, however. I realize not everyone shares those values and that is understandable. If you are an American, however, and you are of the lynch-mob mentality displayed by some here, then your problem is with your upbringing.

>
>Every time a whistle-blower comes out, he/she is
>perfunctorally lambasted on this board. And every
>time, shortly after, a rider is caught doping using
>methods incredibly similar to those described. If you
>can't see that, not sure what to tell you. This could
>be said w/o the Hamilton situation, it's just old hat.

You missed the point as usual. You are already glorifying people like Steffen by calling him a whistle-blower. When I think of whistle-blower, I think of the courageous employees in companies like Enron who, at great personal risk to themselves, do what they think is right and stick it to the criminals. That is not the case with Steffen. He throws out some bait to the David Walshes and Z-dogs of the world, without providing any proof, and the Walshes and Z-dogs take it from there because they don't require any proof.

Your logic is hilarious, z-dog. If someone has correctly pointed out that blood doping exists, then therefore Tyler Hamilton must be a blood doper. That's rich.

>
>>Those of you so quick to want to lynch anyone and/or
>>support the would-be lynchers including Walsh, Steffen
>>etc. ought to consider this: Tyler's career could be
>>over through no fault of his own.
>
>That's obvious, and why I stated VERY CLEARLY that the
>jury is still out. This is the case in EVERY ONE of
>these cases where a specific rider is named. Reason
>number #5,392 why naming names is often avoided by
>"whistle-blowers".

That's why I said you contradicted yourself and you made a snide remark about that, then go on to contradict yourself with gusto.

Again, there is nothing in common between your whistle-blower heroes in cycling and true whistleblowers elsewhere truly fighting the good fight.

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