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Date Posted: 23:19:49 09/11/04 Sat
Author: Viktor
Subject: Re: stop trolling, ChrisH
In reply to: crit racer 's message, "stop trolling, ChrisH" on 09:21:46 09/11/04 Sat

>>>Tyler Hamilton, former Postie, has been among the top
>>>3 time trialists in the world the past 6 years
>>>overall.
>>
>>Hamilton is an exceptional TTist, but hardly top 3.
>
>He finished second to Ullrich in a Tour TT in 1998.
>He was robbed of a win by Millar in the final Tour TT
>in 2003. He now has a TT win in the Vuelta too. He
>is reigning Olympic champion. There is no doubt
>whatsoever that Hamilton is, overall, among the top 3
>time trialists in the world since 1998.
>
>>You can make an argument he has been top 3 this year,
>>but not any other year. His ride today was typical. He
>>isn't the giant killer people make him out to be.
>
>Only Armstrong and Ullrich can be considered better
>time trialists than Hamilton overall since 1998.
>
>>
>>Landis probably put in the time trial of his
>>>life today but that wasn't good enough to top
>Hamilton
>>>or Pena. Alas, Landis is race leader, for now.
>>
>>Yes, Landis is the race leader. I expect both to fade
>>away in the mountains. Heras did what he needed to do
>>today.
>
>No, this was not a good day for Heras at all. Though
>he limited his losses to a degree, there were a LOT of
>good climbers ahead of him. A good day in a time
>trial for Heras would be limiting his losses AND
>having mostly TT specialists ahead of him. That was
>not the case today. As I said in another post to you,
>Heras's problem is that this Vuelta is loaded with
>quality riders who can both time trial and climb.
>Heras will not win this Vuelta and may not even podium.
>
>You have listed Armstrong, Aitor Gonzalez, and Heras
>as your favorite riders. Armstrong isn't in this
>Vuelta, Gonzalez's result today shows that clearly he
>isn't in form to be a serious contender in this Vuelta
>and Heras having a poor placing in the time trial
>relative to other climbers is strike 3 for your favs.
>Again, try looking at some of the other riders.


can't argue with you're takes on Armstrong and Gonsalez but I feel you're a bit early to rule out Heras.

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