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Date Posted: 19:04:24 07/05/12 Thu
Author: Sierras
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1972 Syndication Question

I've read the article on the syndication history of Bonanza. But I didn't see what I seem to be remembering. I remember seeing the show on weekday afternoons after school in 1971 or 1972. I believe it aired about 4:00 pm on an independent station out of Portland, Oregon - KPTV Channel 12. It was an independent station at that time. I seem to remember seeing episodes from the start of the first season. Were there independent stations that were showing Bonanza on weekday afternoons as early as even 1971? Thanks. :)

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[> Re: 1972 Syndication Question -- Rick, 21:36:42 07/05/12 Thu [1]

Hi,

Syndication on locals begun in May of 1973. The 260 and other rerun strips were prepared and aired.

Rick

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[> [> Re: 1972 Syndication Question -- Sierras, 02:24:42 07/06/12 Fri [1]

Hello Rick,

I wonder why I'm remembering seeing the show in the afternoons at the house that my family lived at in 1972? That's odd. Thank you for the info. :)

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[> Re: 1972 Syndication Question -- Tim, 10:51:12 07/06/12 Fri [1]

You could be thinking of the nationally syndicated reruns shown under the title "Ponderosa" in 1972. However, I believe those reruns were aired at 7:30 PM Eastern, and on Tuesdays only.

http://www.voy.com/75280/1/45915.html

Tim

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[> [> Re: 1972 Syndication Question -- Sierras, 17:17:11 07/06/12 Fri [1]

Thanks, Tim.
I may just not be remembering the time frame right for when I started seeing those first season episodes for the first time. Apparently it was 1973 when they first went into sydication. I was in grade school at the time. Funny how our memories can play tricks on us. :)

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[> Re: 1972 Syndication Question -- DAN, 17:02:49 07/08/12 Sun [1]

I don't know about the Portland OR area...but re-runs of Bonanza (Called Ponderosa) began on Aug 29 1972 on local Ch 12 out of Binghamton NY at 7 PM Mon-Fri.

Now several of the other cities around country (that I know of), didn't start re-runs of Bonanza until May of 1973, like Rick and Tim pointed out.

WPIX ch 11 out of NYC re-ran Bonanza Mon-Fri at 9 PM beginning on May 7 1973.

Well some how Binghamton NY managed to get hold of the show 9 months earlier? So it might be that Portland could have started the re-runs in 1972 also?

Anyway, I know I'm not mistaking about the date when the Bonanza re-runs aired in Binhamton because I've kept a journal of all my favorite TV shows and movies that I've watched since 1957, with the datess and times. Plus I have every issue of TV Guide from Aug 1957 until the last one of the old format issues.

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[> [> Re: 1972 Syndication Question -- Joe H., 14:23:38 07/10/12 Tue [1]

August 29th, 1972 was the earliest start of the re-runs on a daily basis eh?

Re: http://ponderosascenery.homestead.com/files/syndication.html

"Less than a month later, NBC in New York cancelled the series, on Friday, November 3, 1972. The crew was notified by Richard Collins over the weekend. Mitch Vogel was delivered a telegram while unloading groceries in his driveway by a messenger. No one from NBC contacted him directly. The cast was told by network executives on Monday, the 6th. They candidly told them the last day of shooting would end on Wednesday, the 8th. The cast had been paid their salaries in June, so the network executives didn't think this short notice would matter to them."

And THEN just over two months later the original goes off the air from the Sunday night broadcasts?

This is a first (and last?), like when, if ever, has any other TV show gone into syndication BEFORE the original series ends?

That's quite the collection there Dan. I remember back in the 1960s when TV GUIDE was only 15-cents, right? when I used to work for $1.00 an hour in a neighbor's garden and had a BOSTON GLOBE paper route, shoveled snow, raked leaves, and the minimum wage during the summer was: $1.50 an hour on the time clock, and with a dollar bill at McDonald's you could buy a hamburger, french fries and a Coca Cola for that AND get change back!

- - Joe

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[> [> [> Re: 1972 Syndication Question -- DAN, 09:22:43 07/14/12 Sat [1]

August 29, 1972 is the earliest non-network syndication run that I know of? A few other shows besides Bonanza were syndicated while they were still in production.

I know in Sept 1961 CBS began re-running the first six seasons of the half hour episodes of Gunsmoke, calling it, "Marshall Dillon." CBS aired it until Sept 1964.
It ran on Tuesdays at 7:30 PM.

Then about Jan of 1965 the half hours went into national syndication still under the "Marshall Dillon" title.

Fury which ran from 1954 till 1960 is another show that started re-running their earlier shows under the title "Brave Stallion" in 1959.

When Fury ended, NBC started re-runs on Saturdays at 11 AM from July 1960 until Aug 1966.
And the Brave Stallion syndicted episodes were still being shown until 1964. In NYC anyway.

Yes, TVG was a bargain. I started saving them in Sept 1957. My father bought the TVGs and when I saw the advertisements for Shock Theater, I began saving them after the week ended.

I think the 15 cent price from the first issue in 1953 was raised to 25 cents in the 70s. I'd have to check thru the guides to find out exactly when.

I started working at 11 yrs old delivering groceries. The store owner would pay me 25 cents per delivery and the customers would tip me anywhere between 10 and 25 cents.
I usualy made about 5 deliveries a day excluding Sundays.

So I might end up with about 8 to 10 bucks a week, which bought me quite a bit back in the 1960s.

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Re: 1972 Syndication Question -- Sierras, 18:25:30 07/08/12 Sun [1]

Hello DAN,

Thank you for the info. That is very interesting.

The other day I sent the station a message asking them about their airing of Bonanza back in the 1970s. I don't know if they'll respond to me or not. We'll see.

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[> [> Re: 1972 Syndication Question -- Sierras, 04:57:14 07/10/12 Tue [1]

Thank you everyone for your help. I appreciate it.

This is a very nice site that you have here, Rick. I can tell that you've really put a lot of work into it. I think you're the one that's the site owner? Anyway, it's all very nice and informative.

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[> [> [> Re: 1972 Syndication Question -- Rick, 05:13:06 07/10/12 Tue [1]

Thanks, Sierra. The station may have the old air date logs, so maybe you'll get an answer. Let us know and have a good one!

Rick :)

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[> [> [> Re: 1972 Syndication Question -- DAN, 08:17:45 07/14/12 Sat [1]

If you don't get an answer from the station, or they don't have the info, try your public library. Many libraries have local TV Guides and local newspapers archived.

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