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Date Posted: 14:10:20 06/25/03 Wed
Author: terminaljunkie3
Subject: Give Liz a break (and the new album a chance)

Look, I got nothin' against women with commercial success (see signature below) and I certainly got nothin' against repressed indie-snobs who got their panties all in a bundle against said women w/commercial success, but cum on!

Yeah, Liz hasn't made a classic album since Exile in Guyville, but then again neither has The Rolling Stones since they made Exile on Main Street. Ironic? Sure. Random coincidence or calculated move? I guess we'll see. I'd like to think that maybe Liz went from patterning her first album against The Stones' Exile to patterning her entire career against that of The Stones (albeit in a haphazard conceptual way). Popularity? Check. Sexiness? Check. $$$? Well, who could possibly approach the level of the Stones, but she's got enough to still rock. Marriage? Check. Kid? Check. Divorce? Check. Fucking groupies younger than her? Check. Radio success? Nope. One of the things she has always dreamed of and has yet to gain is commercial radio success. She has stated repeatedly lately that all she wants to do is keep making music and get on the radio. The Matrix is not the enemy, no more than Timbaland, Dr. Dre, The Neptunes, or any other producer or production team that enjoys commercial success is. There's so much hipocrisy surrounding this topic. Liz doesn't owe me or you anything. She's doing what she wants and for herself and her kid. Give her a break. If it works, good for her, if it doesn't I respect her for trying.

I still love the Stones and I'll always love Liz Phair. And maybe I'm biased, but I'd rather hear her stuff on the radio than Avril and Michelle Branch, so for me there IS a noticeable difference.

Keep rockin' Liz, I look forward to your 40 Licks album in the year 2023!

--
"Music makes the bourgeoisie and the rebel."

Steve

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[> Re: Give Liz a break (and the new album a chance) -- Mamie, 15:18:28 06/25/03 Wed

I don't have anything against going for commercial succcess either. Songs can sound commercial and still be good songs; we'll all just have to judge for ourselves. The only thing that gets my goat is reading a wee interview with Liz that I found on my page at Excite.com, in which she claimed that the sexy photos being used to market her new record weren't her idea. The last time I checked, if someone was taking your photograph in a studio and you had only panties on the bottom half of your body, you were aware of it. I'm not criticzing it, but she sure as hell ought to own her marketing if she's going to pose for those types of photos. Peace.


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