VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 123456[7]89 ]


[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 20:50:01 04/30/02 Tue
Author: CONG DAO
Author Host/IP: cs662549-52.houston.rr.com / 66.25.49.52
Subject: Re: Vai Loi Khai Thi Cung Ban Giup
In reply to: Giu'p 's message, "Re: Vai Loi Khai Thi Cung Ban Giup" on 14:48:41 04/30/02 Tue

Than chao tat ca,

That ra cuoc tranh luan giua hai anh chang lien can gi den toi, nhung vi thay anh Giup noi chuyen chang co dau duoi nen man phep lap lai ma thoi!

... DDie^`u Giu'p to^i no'i ra dda^y dde^? muo^'n nha('c HQS la` (nhu+ nga`y gio+` tha'ng na(m sinh cu?a HQS ddu'ng nhu+ va^.y) HQS co' kha? na(ng tha^u dda.t ve^` mo^n thua^.t so^' ra^'t cao (Qu?y dda.o) nhu+ng la.i thie^'u ma^'t pha^`n tu chu+'ng tam pha'p a^'n nha` Pha^.t....
... HQS trong mo^.t email co' no'i Giu'p to^i kho^ng da'm gia?i la' so^' na`y no. hay ke^u go.i lo`ng tu+` bi cu+'u ddo^. v.v... la` chu+a ro~ va^.y! Giu'p to^i cu~ng dda~ tu+`ng co' duye^n ddu+o+.c tham cu+'u nhu+~ng DDa.i Lu.c Nha^m Bi' Toa`n, Da~ Ha.c Bo^'c Phe^., Tu+? Vi, Tu+? Bi`nh, Ha` La.c, Di.ch, Nha^m DDo^.n, Thie^n Va(n, DDi.a Ly' vi` trong so^' cu~ng co' Qu?y dda.o o+? tha'ng, ma` HQS thi` o+? nga`y; nhu+ng dde^'n khi ddu'ng tie^'t hoa no+?, bao nhie^u da`y co^ng nghie^n cu+'u tha? tro^i xuo^i dde^? ddo^.c dda.o dda(ng tri`nh vi` trong gio+` sinh ro+i va`o Pha^.t dda.o dda^~n da('t cuo^'i cuo^.c ddo+`i....

Phan tren la nhung bi anh noi, con phan duoi la nhung gi anh HQS viet de chung minh theo Giao Ly nha Phat nhung gi anh tin tuong la sai!

... Ban no'i gio sinh cua ban roi vao Phat Dao, vay ban lay Ta^m nao de biet? Ban lay Ta^m hien ta.i? Hay Ta^m vi. lai? Hay qua' khu+'Ta^m? Neu lay qua khu Tam thi qua khu da qua roi! Neu lay Tam vi lai thi vi lai chua den! Hay ban lay Tam hien tai chang? Co hie^.n ta.i na`o la.i kho^ng va^.n dong bien chuyen? Co hien tai nao ton tai co dinh?

Duc Phat da day: "Ngay bay gio, chung sinh vua co sinh, vua co gia`, vua co die^.t vong"! Hay la ban ddi.nh du`ng cai Tam Vo Sinh ma cho rang "duoc gio sinh Phat Dao"? Da noi den Vo Sinh tuc la Chanh Vi. Da la Cha'nh Vi. thi khong co van de duoc ngay gio sinh Phat Dao va cung chang co cai goi la "duoc" thanh Phat Dao. The thi lam sao ban Giup biet minh "duoc gio Phat Dao"? Hay la ban dua vao Tam Cha^n Nhu+ Sinh ma "duoc gio Phat Dao"? Hay la ban dua vao Ta^m Cha^n Nhu+ Die^.t ma "duoc gio Phat Dao"? Neu dua vao Tam Chan Nhu Sinh thi khong duoc! Vi Chan Nhu khong co Sinh! Neu dua vao Tam Chan Nhu Diet cung khong duoc! Vi Chan Nhu khong co Diet.

Ban nen biet tat ca chung sinh deu Nhu+. Tat ca Phap deu Nhu+. Cac tha'nh hie^`n cung Nhu. Chinh ban cung Nhu. Neu ban "duoc gio Phat Dao" thi tat ca chung sinh cung phai "duoc gio Phat Dao". Vi luan ve nghia Nhu+ thi khong co cai Hai. Khong co cai nao khac voi cai nao. Neu ban "duoc gio Phat Dao" thi tat ca chung sinh cung duoc Phat Dao! Vi tat ca chung sinh la tu+o+'ng cua Phat Dao. Neu ban duoc Diet Do thi tat ca chung sinh cung phai duoc Diet Do. Vi chu Phat biet tat ca chung sinh la tu+o+'ng cua Niet Ban von da vi~nh cu+~u Ti.ch Die^.t. Cho nen chang con gi de Diet nua. Vi Phat Dao, khong phai duoc tu nam thang ngay gio sinh hoac "gio Phat Dao", cung chang phai duoc tu noi Than, cung chang phai tu noi Tam. Bo+?i Tich Diet la Phat Dao, vi diet het cac tuong Cha^'p. Bat Qua'n la Phat Dao, vi xa lia het cac Tra^`n Duye^n. Bat Ha`nh la Phat Dao, vi khong luu mot uc niem hay mot hy vong nao. Doa.n la Phat Dao, vi xa lia tat ca kie^'n cha^'p. Ly la Phat Dao, vi xa lia tat ca cac vo.ng tu+o+?ng. Chu+o+'ng la Phat Dao, vi chong lai tat ca mong muo^'n. Ba^'t Nha^.p la Phat Dao, vi khong dinh dang vao Tu.c Luy.. Thua^.n la Phat Dao, vi tuy thuan theo Chan Nhu. Tru. la Phat Dao, vi tru. o Pha'p Ta'nh. Chi? la Phat Dao, vi da.t den cho thuc te^' cua Cha^n Ly'. Ba^'t Nhi. la Phat Dao, vi xa roi Y' Ca(n va Pha'p Tra^`n. Da(?ng la Phat Dao, vi binh dang nhu Hu+ Kho^ng. Vo Vi la Phat Dao, vi khong Sinh, khong Tru., khong Di., khong Die^.t. Tri la Phat Dao, vi ro biet het Ta^m Ha`nh cua chung sinh. Ba^'t Ho^.i la Phat Dao, vi cac Nha^.p khong nho'm duoc. Bat Hie^.p la Phat Dao, vi de.p tan het cac phie^`n na~o. Gia? Danh la Phat Dao, vi biet ro Ta'nh cua Ngo^n Ngu+~ va(n tu+. von khong tha^.t. Nhu Ho'a la Phat Dao, vi khong con di'nh ma('c o thu?, xa~ hai ben. Vo Loa.n la Phat Dao, vi Tu+. Ta^m thu+o+`ng tru. tu+o+'ng Ti.ch Ti~nh. Thie^`n Ti.ch la Phat Dao, vi Tu+. Ta'nh luc nao cung va('ng la(.ng. Ba^'t Thu? la Phat Dao, vi lia xa het cac phan Duye^n. Ba^'t Di. la Phat Dao, vi nhin cac Phap bi`nh da(?ng. Vo^ Ti? la Phat Dao, vi cac Phap khong co tuong doi dai de so sa'nh. Vi Die^.u la Phat Dao, vi cac Phap kho biet ma biet ro~ tat ca!...

Bai viet cua anh HQS ro rang la muon chung minh voi moi nguoi rang: Bat cu ai cung co kha nang Tu va thanh Phat ca (khong phai chi vi co gio sinh Phat Dao), va chang co mot nguoi nao sinh ra khong tu minh tu chung ma thanh phat duoc. Vi neu bao co nguoi sinh ra tu duoc con nguoi sinh ra khong tu duoc thi nhu vay la anh Giup da di nguoc voi giao ly cua Phat day roi! The thi dau the nao noi Phat tai Tam nua. Loi noi tren cua anh co the lam cho nhieu nguoi hieu lam ma thoai sut Dao Tam vay. Va dieu nay la Nghiep Qua anh kho ma khong tra! Ay vay ma anh lai dan:

... Chi? mo^.t chu+~ "lie^~u" ma` HQS cu+' bo+`i bo+`i ra bao nhie^u thu+' va^.y thi` kha'c gi` nhu+ con ro^'i bi. giu+.t gia^y hay sao!...

Anh HQS chi noi mot dieu duy nhat ve van de ai cung co kha nang thanh Phat. Neu da hieu ro Tu Tanh roi thi dau con ly do gi ma quan trong hoa o nam thang ngay gio sinh? Va cai kieu noi cua anh hinh nhu co TIEU TAM (neu toi khong lam). Neu anh cho rang anh dung thi tai sao khong dam xem la so Tan Ty (1881) toi dua di?? Toi thay hinh nhu ve Tu Vi anh cung binh thuong thoi, ma Phat Dao cung chang hay may, nen cu noi cai giong “lung lo con ca vang”, chang giong con Giap nao het. Toi nghi toi da biet anh la ai roi! Theo toi nhan dinh thi hinh nhu anh chi nham lam giam uy tin cua anh HQS voi moi nguoi hoac co tinh choc tuc anh ta ma thoi. Nhung chang biet anh ta da lam gi mat long anh? Tuy nhien neu anh doc lai bai cua anh HQS muon ngoi lai voi anh thi ro rang tam luong cua HQS rat bao la rong mo. Con cai luan dieu cua anh du cho nguoi nao di nua cung kho ma kinh trong duoc.

Loi cuoi, du sao thi anh cha co Dac gi ca, vi ro rang van con rat muon hon thua tung tieng. Dac cai gi ma anh HQS viet cai gi dong den anh thi thay co tra loi, con hoi ve Tu Vi thi ngam bon hon vay. Moi cac ban hay noi len vai loi cong dao!

CONG DAO



>>Than chao ban Giup,
>>
>>That tinh cho^~ A^'y da ba(.t duong no'i na(ng, the ma
>>ban van con cho de noi thi e rang chi la chim thoi, ma
>>khong noi duoc tieng nguoi. Y toi muon khong dung de
>>hi luan nghia la neu toi tiep tuc dung Phat Phap de
>>noi voi ban thi thanh ra hi luan mat roi! Neu ban van
>>con nha hung thi hay tiep tuc noi mot minh di nhe! Con
>>neu muon noi voi toi thi xin moi vao email cua toi la
>>Exo1916@yahoo.com, chung ta tha ho ma noi. Con o day
>>la Dien Dan Tu Vi khong phai la no+i no'i chuyen Phat
>>Phap, va tranh luan ve nhung de tai ba' do+, chang loi
>>ich gi cho nguoi muon hoc hoi Tu Vi. Thien nghi chung
>>ta nen ton trong doc gia va tu+. trong minh. Hon nua,
>>mot nguoi da Lieu roi ma di tranh luan de hon thua voi
>>mot nguoi chua Lieu thi khac nao coi trau di tim trau.
>>Tu minh da biet minh cha(n trau o mu.c thu may roi!
>>
>
>HQS cha(?ng co' tha^'y la` chi'nh HQS khai thi. gia?ng
>gia?i tri'ch da^~n Pha^.t kinh gia'o ddie^?n v.v.. hay
>sao? Ha~y nhi`n la.i nhu+~ng ba`i vie^'t cu?a HQS ddi
>nhe'!
>
>Tru+o+'c tie^n, Giu'p to^i chi? co' y' hoa`n ta^'t
>la^.p le^n la' so^' cu?a "khonghieu" khi lao ND nghi~
>ra(`ng ddu+o+ng su+. kho^ng tha^.t tha` gi` he^'t va`
>coi bo^. nhu+ pha'; vi` nhu+ kho^ng co' la' so^'
>dda^`y ddu? thi` qui' vi. cha(?ng the^? ddoa'n. Xong.
>
>Chi? mo^.t chu+~ "lie^~u" ma` HQS cu+' bo+`i bo+`i ra
>bao nhie^u thu+' va^.y thi` kha'c gi` nhu+ con ro^'i
>bi. giu+.t gia^y hay sao!
>
>Cu+' la`m vie^.c vie^'t la'ch Tu+? Vi cu?a HQS ddi!
>
>>Moi ban cu lien lac voi email cua toi!
>>
>>Than,
>>Hoang Quy Son
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Than chao ban Giup,
>>>>
>>>
>>>HQS dda~ tha^'y bo^. Lie^m-Tham pha't ta'c ro^`i
>>>chu+a? :)
>>>
>>>Chi? mo^.t ca^u tho^i: "HQS va^~n chu+a lie^~u."
>>>
>>>thi` co' the^m ngay nhu+~ng tri'ch da^~n "chim ho.c
>>>no'i tie^'ng ngu+o+`i" va` cu`ng lu'c xa'c ddi.nh
>>>ra(`ng mi`nh cha? co' lie^~u gi` he^'t. The^' ma`,
>>>no'i va^~n cu+' no'i ... :)
>>>
>>>>Toi da noi voi ban roi, he mo+? mie^.ng thi biet ban
>>>>chua THAY, hoac may co THAY cung hanh chua den noi!
>>>>Boi nho ban doan so thi may ngay khong nghe tieng,
>ma
>>>>vua dua bai khai thi ban lien tra loi ngay!
>>>
>>>Giu'p to^i co' no'i hay hu+'a gi` vo+'i ai la` pha?i
>>>ddoa'n so^' giu`m cho ho. dda^u. (DDa^y chi? la`
>>>pho'ng du+. cu?a HQS tho^i)
>>>
>>>>Thu that chu+~ Lie^~ chu+a bao gio+` da'm nghi~
>>to+'i,
>>>>vi HQS nay lam sao dam Cao Co^'ng Nga~ Ma.n nhu+
>ba.n
>>>>no'i. Thoi thi chung ta bo? Thuye^`n ma no'i nhung
>gi
>>>>Phat day cho de hieu.
>>>>
>>>>[Phat hoi Tu Bo De:"Nhu Lai ve qua' khu do+`i truoc
>>>>Phat Nhien Dang, Ta co 'da('c Phap' khong"?
>>>>Tu Bo De thua:"Bach The Ton! Duc Nhu Lai that khong
>>co
>>>>'dac Phap' gi ca"?]
>>>>
>>>>Ban thay chua, neu Nhu Lai con chap minh co "dac
>Phap
>>>>va duoc tho. ky'" tuc la Nhu Lai con chap Nga (ta
>>>>duoc), chap Phap (dac phap) thi khong phai la Nhu
>Lai
>>>>roi. Va co' nhu vay moi khong ma('c vao bon
>tu+o+'ng:
>>>>Nha^n Tuong, Nga~ Tuong, Chu'ng Sinh Tuong, va Tho.
>>>>Gia? Tuong.
>>>>
>>>>Neu ban cho rang ban Lieu roi thi vao day lam gi???
>>>>Con neu ban chua Lieu thi ha co lai noi den chuyen
>>toi
>>>>Lieu??? Ma` toi nao dam noi rang minh Lieu dau???
>>Thoi
>>>>thi tot nhat ban cu de toi muon noi gi thi noi cho
>>>>roi, boi toi cha co Lieu "ca'i con khi?" gi het! Va?
>>>>la.i Phat Phap khong nen du`ng de hi' lua^.n vay!
>>>>
>>>
>>>Nhu+ng HQS co' kho^ng du`ng dde^? cha(?ng hi' lua^.n
>>>ddo' sao! :)
>>>
>>>>Cuoi thu toi rat chan thanh cam on nhung loi nhan
>nhu
>>>>vang ngoc cua ban.
>>>>
>>>>Rat cam kich,
>>>>Hoang Quy Son
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Than chao ban Giup,
>>>>>
>>>>>Neu ban chang co`n ba`i to^i viet ve Bush thi, toi
>>>xin
>>>>>du+`ng o day vay. Ma tot nhat toi nghi chung ta nen
>>>>>noi nhung chuyen cao sieu hon di nhe.
>>>>>
>>>>>Con ve la so Mau Tuat ma ban dua ra thi xin ban hay
>>>>>giai doan de chung minh va phan bac nhung gi toi
>noi
>>>>>sai gium. Co nhu vay toi moi hoc hoi duoc!
>>>>>
>>>>>Dong thoi neu ban tin tuong ban co the thay duoc
>gio
>>>>>sinh cua ban roi vao Phat Dao hay Ta` Dao gi do,
>thi
>>>>>xin ban tiep tuc xem la so cua nguoi Am Nam
>>27/7/1881
>>>>>tuc la ngay 2/7/Tan-Ty, gio*` Da^`n. ma anh Ba Lang
>>>da
>>>>>cho moi chung minh thuc te duoc chu.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do la noi ve Huu Vi, con noi ve Vo Vi thi, toi thay
>>>>>ban noi nang chang khac nguoi Trong Mo^.ng! Nen nay
>>>co
>>>>>vai loi Khai Thi ve Khong Tam cung ban!
>>>>>
>>>>>Ban no'i gio sinh cua ban roi vao Phat Dao, vay ban
>>>>>lay Ta^m nao de biet? Ban lay Ta^m hien ta.i? Hay
>>>Ta^m
>>>>>vi. lai? Hay qua' khu+'Ta^m? Neu lay qua khu Tam
>thi
>>>>>qua khu da qua roi! Neu lay Tam vi lai thi vi lai
>>>chua
>>>>>den! Hay ban lay Tam hien tai chang? Co hie^.n ta.i
>>>>>na`o la.i kho^ng va^.n dong bien chuyen? Co hien
>tai
>>>>>nao ton tai co dinh?
>>>>>
>>>>>Duc Phat da day: "Ngay bay gio, chung sinh vua co
>>>>>sinh, vua co gia`, vua co die^.t vong"! Hay la ban
>>>>>ddi.nh du`ng cai Tam Vo Sinh ma cho rang "duoc gio
>>>>>sinh Phat Dao"? Da noi den Vo Sinh tuc la Chanh Vi.
>>>Da
>>>>>la Cha'nh Vi. thi khong co van de duoc ngay gio
>sinh
>>>>>Phat Dao va cung chang co cai goi la "duoc" thanh
>>>Phat
>>>>>Dao. The thi lam sao ban Giup biet minh "duoc gio
>>>Phat
>>>>>Dao"? Hay la ban dua vao Tam Cha^n Nhu+ Sinh ma
>>"duoc
>>>>>gio Phat Dao"? Hay la ban dua vao Ta^m Cha^n Nhu+
>>>>>Die^.t ma "duoc gio Phat Dao"? Neu dua vao Tam Chan
>>>>>Nhu Sinh thi khong duoc! Vi Chan Nhu khong co Sinh!
>>>>>Neu dua vao Tam Chan Nhu Diet cung khong duoc! Vi
>>>Chan
>>>>>Nhu khong co Diet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ban nen biet tat ca chung sinh deu Nhu+. Tat ca
>Phap
>>>>>deu Nhu+. Cac tha'nh hie^`n cung Nhu. Chinh ban
>cung
>>>>>Nhu. Neu ban "duoc gio Phat Dao" thi tat ca chung
>>>sinh
>>>>>cung phai "duoc gio Phat Dao". Vi luan ve nghia
>Nhu+
>>>>>thi khong co cai Hai. Khong co cai nao khac voi cai
>>>>>nao. Neu ban "duoc gio Phat Dao" thi tat ca chung
>>>sinh
>>>>>cung duoc Phat Dao! Vi tat ca chung sinh la
>tu+o+'ng
>>>>>cua Phat Dao. Neu ban duoc Diet Do thi tat ca chung
>>>>>sinh cung phai duoc Diet Do. Vi chu Phat biet tat
>ca
>>>>>chung sinh la tu+o+'ng cua Niet Ban von da vi~nh
>>>cu+~u
>>>>>Ti.ch Die^.t. Cho nen chang con gi de Diet nua. Vi
>>>>>Phat Dao, khong phai duoc tu nam thang ngay gio
>sinh
>>>>>hoac "gio Phat Dao", cung chang phai duoc tu noi
>>>Than,
>>>>>cung chang phai tu noi Tam. Bo+?i Tich Diet la Phat
>>>>>Dao, vi diet het cac tuong Cha^'p. Bat Qua'n la
>Phat
>>>>>Dao, vi xa lia het cac Tra^`n Duye^n. Bat Ha`nh la
>>>>>Phat Dao, vi khong luu mot uc niem hay mot hy vong
>>>>>nao. Doa.n la Phat Dao, vi xa lia tat ca kie^'n
>>>>>cha^'p. Ly la Phat Dao, vi xa lia tat ca cac vo.ng
>>>>>tu+o+?ng. Chu+o+'ng la Phat Dao, vi chong lai tat
>ca
>>>>>mong muo^'n. Ba^'t Nha^.p la Phat Dao, vi khong
>dinh
>>>>>dang vao Tu.c Luy.. Thua^.n la Phat Dao, vi tuy
>>thuan
>>>>>theo Chan Nhu. Tru. la Phat Dao, vi tru. o Pha'p
>>>>>Ta'nh. Chi? la Phat Dao, vi da.t den cho thuc te^'
>>>cua
>>>>>Cha^n Ly'. Ba^'t Nhi. la Phat Dao, vi xa roi Y'
>Ca(n
>>>>>va Pha'p Tra^`n. Da(?ng la Phat Dao, vi binh dang
>>nhu
>>>>>Hu+ Kho^ng. Vo Vi la Phat Dao, vi khong Sinh, khong
>>>>>Tru., khong Di., khong Die^.t. Tri la Phat Dao, vi
>>ro
>>>>>biet het Ta^m Ha`nh cua chung sinh. Ba^'t Ho^.i la
>>>>>Phat Dao, vi cac Nha^.p khong nho'm duoc. Bat
>Hie^.p
>>>>>la Phat Dao, vi de.p tan het cac phie^`n na~o. Gia?
>>>>>Danh la Phat Dao, vi biet ro Ta'nh cua Ngo^n Ngu+~
>>>>>va(n tu+. von khong tha^.t. Nhu Ho'a la Phat Dao,
>vi
>>>>>khong con di'nh ma('c o thu?, xa~ hai ben. Vo Loa.n
>>>la
>>>>>Phat Dao, vi Tu+. Ta^m thu+o+`ng tru. tu+o+'ng
>Ti.ch
>>>>>Ti~nh. Thie^`n Ti.ch la Phat Dao, vi Tu+. Ta'nh luc
>>>>>nao cung va('ng la(.ng. Ba^'t Thu? la Phat Dao, vi
>>>lia
>>>>>xa het cac phan Duye^n. Ba^'t Di. la Phat Dao, vi
>>>nhin
>>>>>cac Phap bi`nh da(?ng. Vo^ Ti? la Phat Dao, vi cac
>>>>>Phap khong co tuong doi dai de so sa'nh. Vi Die^.u
>>la
>>>>>Phat Dao, vi cac Phap kho biet ma biet ro~ tat ca!
>>>>>
>>>>>Tiec la ban da bi LAM! Ban con co dieu gi de noi
>nua
>>>>>khong??? He ban con mo mieng la biet ban chua THAY!
>>>>>Toi co lam bai ke xin tang ban:
>>>>>Nghe sam dong, thay tia chop, ngui mui huong...
>>>>>Cai Biet vua kho+?i da luo^'ng qua mot doi!
>>>>>
>>>>>Than,
>>>>>Hoang Quy Son

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]


Replies:


[ Contact Forum Admin ]


Forum timezone: GMT-8
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.