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Subject: We made it easy........


Author:
Dan
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Date Posted: 08:09:50 01/03/06 Tue

With respect to anything else that happened in this game, Army would have beaten us with the pathetic way we protected the ball. Their press was not even that tough frankly. WE just kept giving it up. Mastropaolo sucks.

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[> Subject: Re: We made it easy........


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unwired
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Date Posted: 09:37:29 01/03/06 Tue

I'd have hoped after Villanova, they would not have started out like deer in the headlights. I was looking for a respectable showing--didn't get it.

Swinging to the positive side--nothing ventured, nothing gained. We played the toughest non-league schedule any PL team has ever played and emerged 9-3, with the SC loss being the only blemish. We'd have all taken 9-3 back on 11/15.

We are not Duke or Villanova, and unless there is a drastic change of philosophy regarding our approach to sports, we never will be. And that's fine. Its been a great ride--now lets go back to where we belong and take care of business so we can slay 1 or 2 more giants.
[> [> Subject: Re: We made it easy........


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Dan
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Date Posted: 10:52:19 01/03/06 Tue

Agreed......

I think Coach Flannery did a nice job adjusting at the TO's and halftime. We just came unglued and unfortunately he can't call a timeout every 2 minutes.

Only criticism I have of him was that Bettencourt should have been on the bench earlier and more often. The way Vegotsky strokes the three they should have created more looks for him earlier as well.
[> Subject: Re: We made it easy........


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KenZ
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Date Posted: 12:37:52 01/03/06 Tue

went to the game. Bison faced pressure they have never seen before, both on the press and against half court D. while you can say the team did not react well, the truth is they have never faced a team that has Duke's combination of athleticism, plays good team and individual defense and played with great intensity. furthermore, there is no way to simulate that to practice in advance.

Bucknell's wins against higher level comp is the result of better team play and solid execution. Duke played a very good game and took away Bucknell's game.

Mastropaolo played too tentatively and while normally that results in avoiding turnovers or poor shots, against Duke they quickly turned it into a huge disadvantage.

the team just needs to move on. they will not face another challenge like this unless they advance in the NCAA tournament and there are many more important games to focus on in order to get there.
[> Subject: Re: We made it easy........


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bison137
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Date Posted: 14:06:31 01/03/06 Tue

>>>Bison faced pressure they have never seen before, both on the press and against half court D. while you can say the team did not react well, the truth is they have never faced a team that has Duke's combination of athleticism, plays good team and individual defense and played with great intensity. furthermore, there is no way to simulate that to practice in advance.<<<

Agree 100%. Every time the Bison put the ball to the floor in traffic or even held it low, it was attacked by several fast, athletic Duke players. They even lost it a number of times as they went up for inside shots because Duke gave such quick, weak-side help. There is NO comparison between the defensive pressure of Duke and the pressure from any other team on the Bison schedule. Even Villanova did not put nearly that much pressure on the ball. No team on the remaining schedule except HC will give them even half that much pressure.

One thing that was exposed was the Bison press-break. If Mastropaolo receives most of the in-bounds passes and is unwilling/unable to dribble upcourt even if unguarded, it makes it very difficult to break the press - it is essentially 3 vs 4 for Lee, Badmus, and Bettencourt. On one occasion he had the ball near half-court with no-one near him and would not dribble into frontcourt. Instead he threw a very dangerous pass into traffic.
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Dan
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Date Posted: 16:49:42 01/03/06 Tue

Not to sound awful but how pathetic did Mastropaolo look? I yelled and wanted to cry. The kid would not move with the ball when no one was in front of him, behind him, anywhere near him. He'd simply wait for someone to come to him and they usually played for Duke!!!!

My beef is that the adjustment to this took way too long. Christ, Duke had like 16 steals! That's an incredible number.
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KenZ
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Date Posted: 08:12:01 01/04/06 Wed

my last thoughts on this topic. Darren was uncomfortable beccause he was forced into a role that he does not fill. this was the result of Duke developing a game plan to exploit this and executing it very well.

make no mistake, Bucknell is a distinctly better team when Darren is on the floor. he has the strength to play defense against big time players. he does the non-boxscore things like taking charges and fighting for loose balls. in short, he is a team player, understands his role and fills it, but does not try to do things that he is not as skilled at as his teammates. Duke forced him to do those things and his mindset kept him from reacting positively. few teams will be able to consistently force Bucknell into that situation.

while i have no desire to see him handling the ball more, i do think long term benefit could be derived if he more aggressively looked for his shot. it is generally his second option after looking for a teammate who is a better scorer. i would like to see him get just a touch more offensively minded in league play.
[> Subject: Re: We made it easy........


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Mike
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Date Posted: 13:43:09 01/04/06 Wed

I view this game as a learning experience and good prep for the NCAA tournament if the Bison make it this year. There was a ton of hype surrounding the game, and I for one had hopes for a much closer outcome. McNaughton looked good in spite of being double teamed in the post--I don't know why there was no outlet for him when he was double teamed. There should have been many chances for him to dish it out for a 3 point shot, but most of the time he either forced a shot or was hacked and/or turned the ball over.

I was very impressed with Vegotsky. 4 of 5 from the 3 point line--with the only miss coming from a virtual mugging by the Duke defender.

Coach Flannery needs to create a response to the full court press or this weakness will be their Achilles Heal.
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jck45
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Date Posted: 11:54:45 01/05/06 Thu

I couldn't agree with your comments more. Vegotsky seems to be able to spot up and shoot as well as anybody. He could turn out be be something special.

And we still need a better response to the press. I would have thought that after the Nova game it would be there but....

The press keeps us unsettled and takes away our ability to control the game.


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