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Thank you for proving my point that the false claim of this being a "debating" forum is false advertising, and proving that because you are incapable of comprehending the issue, and unable to enter into comprehensive and substantive discourse, you simply remove the truth in order to keep from being faced with your own misconceptions.

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Subject: Roy


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Date Posted: 10:38:12 05/11/02 Sat

Well, it looks like you have been "branded" as a "hater" for telling the truth, by the papist apologist for antichrist, RonB.

Anyone who reads his rants and ravings, knows that he is in no position to call anyone who stands against the heresies of the apostate Roman church----a hater----his rants are as hatefilled as little stevie's, now wonder RonB admires little stevie so much, even called Stephen James a "very sweet guy".

Man O man, those brown-nosers will suck-up to anyone, including the devil to try and win support for their lies and deceptions.

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Subject: ACNR


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Date Posted: 21:39:11 05/06/02 Mon

Hi Ed,
It looks like we are both been staying busy. I'm getting into home repair and remodeling etc. and have been busy most of last week. I helped a framing contractor nail down the roof on a house he's building, setting windows finished nailing shear walls, cutting out and framing for 6 skylights. Tomorrow morning we are setting a sliding glass door and we also have two “drop” ceilings to do which accommodates for the upstairs plumbing. (One in a large downstairs bedroom and the other is a bathroom.) I’m not making a lot of money, but $22.50 per hour isn’t too bad.

Today, at 1:00 P.M. my 79-year-old mother fell down and broke her right side hip. She was taking care of Kayleen, our 22-month-old granddaughter. I happen to be home at the time, but was upstairs. Kayleen went to the stair well and started calling for me. She kept saying, “grandpa”, grandpa I need you.
Please pray my mother gets through her operation.

I agree that none of us should “spout” off without proof of what we are saying and not go on our personal “convictions.” That is exactly what I was trying to get across to those persons who were posting accusing Mr. Reagan of having people killed while he was in office.

Again, thank you all for being concerned for my spiritual well being. I am also thankful that you, Tamarisk, Dolly and others continue to preach the truth of God’s Word.

I'll write more later.

God bless you all.

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ACNR
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Date Posted: 05:38:21 05/07/02 Tue

I'm sorry to hear about your mother's physical mishap, and will certainly pray for her, thanks for asking.

I wanted to say you have been doing good work in challenging and confronting the Romanists with their false doctrines.

I don't know if you picked up on a series of posts at the "Blue Room" concerning the RC gospel or not?

It was prompted by Ronnie-B-apologist for antichrist, posting a statement from the RC catechism on "justification", which correctly states the RC dogma, that their "works" are merited towards justification in "co-operation with" the Grace of God, and the Atonement of Christ. That catechism statement flatly says, as the apostate Roman church teaches, that human works complete the work that Christ started on the Cross, so that it is imperative that "justification" is not sufficient based on the Finished Work of Atonement and imputed righteousness of Christ through faith in Him as the Scriptures pronounce, but that human works of righteousness must be added in order to make "justification" complete.

That is another gospel, is a false gospel, which ultimately rests one's salvation(justification) on what man does, and not what Christ did on the Cross, for if even the minutest portion of a man's works must be counted toward his "justification", that it is that portion which ultimately is the deciding portion. It is on that point, aside from the other false doctrines of the RC church, that they are most blind, and is ultimately their downfall.

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Date Posted: 21:50:09 05/06/02 Mon

I agree that none of us should “spout” off without proof of what we are saying and not go on personal “perceptions.” I agree we should draw a distinction between making charges or claims without solid substantiation, and having the substantiation to back up one's claims.

That is exactly what I was trying to get across to those persons who were posting accusing Mr. Reagan of having people killed while he was in office.

Sorry, for the re-wording. I'm tired and didn't mean to use the word convictions, but preceptions.

Thanks again.

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Subject: ACNR ~ Your Response ~


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Pac1
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Date Posted: 14:32:55 04/25/02 Thu

But here is where you false accused St. Iguanas of being a murderer in the same post the above quote came from:
"By the admission of your own mouth, you'd kill abortion doctors if given half a chance."

ACNR, it seems that because of his many anti-abortion posts, and from things he said in those posts, I must have came to that conclusion, believing he had said something to that effect.

I have apologized for making that statement in that he has since denied he would do anything like that personally.

Please, can we now move on to things more constructive, unless I’m not forgiven. And if that is the case, then this will be my last post here.

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ACNR
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Date Posted: 14:38:04 05/06/02 Mon

Sorry it has taken me a while to get back to you here. I've been busy with a project that has limited my net time.

Roy, please understand, that my previous post here to you was not intended to belabor the point, but was meant to draw a distinction between making charges or claims without solid substantiation, and having the substantiation to back up one's claims.

When bringing a charge, it is imperative that we be sure of the charge and have ready evidence that supports that charge, as opposed to making rash, emotionally biased charges, but instead, we are called to make sound, right judgments based in reasoned fact within the parameters of Scripture. Wouldn't you agree?


That is why I quoted your exact words, as opposed to simply "thinking", or relying on a perception alone, that someone said or meant something.

Therefore, it appears that my reponse was perceived as one that was beating you over the head, so to speak, which was not the intention at all, and for which I apologize for failing to make myself expressly clear of the intent. I beg your forgiveness.

On another note, concerning what you call, "Simology"; I understand where you are coming from, Sim does come dangerously close to full blown "antinomianism", but doesn't quite cross over the line.

I have asked Sim directly several times concerning this, and he has confirmed that if one is indeed in Christ, they cannot remain in a state of habitual sin or habitual backsliding, or else they prove they were never genuinely saved in Christ to begin with. However, his teaching on this topic is one that has led many to believe that they can continue in habitual sin, without repentance, and still be saved.

You may want to do a bit of a study on "antinomianism", which is a false doctrine that entered the Church very early, particularly in Rome, and Paul addresses directly in Romans 6.

Below is a short article by AW Tozer on modern "antinomianism", especially among some of the "fundamentalists".

Antinomianism

By

A. W. Tozer



Fundamental Christianity in our times is deeply influenced by that ancient enemy of righteousness, antinomianism. The creed
of the antinomian is easily stated: We are saved by faith alone; works have no place in salvation; conduct is works, and is
therefore of no importance. What we do cannot matter as long as we believe rightly. The divorce between creed and conduct is
absolute and final. The question of sin is settled by the Cross; conduct is outside the circle of faith and cannot come between
the believer and God. Such, in brief, is the teaching of the antinomian. And so fully has it permeated the Fundamental element in
modern Christianity that it is accepted by the religious masses as the very truth of God.

Antinomianism is the doctrine of grace carried by uncorrected logic to the point of absurdity. It takes the teaching of
justification by faith and twists it into deformity. It plagued the Apostle Paul in the early Church and called out some of his most
picturesque denunciations. When the question is asked, "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?" he answers no with
that terrific argument in the sixth chapter of Romans.

The advocates of antinomianism in our times deserve our respect for at least one thing: their motive is good. Their error
springs from their very eagerness to magnify grace and exalt the freedom of the gospel. They start right, but allow themselves to
be carried beyond what is written by a slavish adherence to undisciplined logic. It is always dangerous to isolate a truth and
then press it to its limit without regard to other truths. It is not the teaching of the Scriptures that grace makes us free to do evil.
Rather, it sets us free to do good. Between these two conceptions of grace there is a great gulf fixed. It may be stated as an
axiom of the Christian system that whatever makes sin permissible is a foe of God and an enemy of the souls of men.

Right after the first World War there broke out an epidemic of popular evangelism with the emphasis upon what was called
the "positive" gospel. The catch-words were "believe," "program," "vision." The outlook was wholly objective. Men fulminated
against duty, commandments and what they called scornfully "a decalogue of don'ts." They talked about a "big," "lovely" Jesus
who had come to help us poor but well-meaning sinners to get the victory. Christ was presented as a powerful but not too
particular Answerer of Prayer. The message was so presented as to encourage a loaves-and-fishes attitude toward Christ. That
part of the New Testament which acts as an incentive toward holy living was carefully edited out. It was said to be "negative"
and was not tolerated. Thousands sought help who had no desire to leave all and follow the Lord. The will of God was
interpreted as "Come and get it." Christ thus became a useful convenience, but His indisputable claim to Lordship over the
believer was tacitly canceled out.

Much of this is now history. The economic depression of the thirties helped to end it by making the huge meetings which
propagated it unprofitable. But its evil fruits remain. The stream of gospel thought had been fouled, and its waters are still
muddy. One thing that remains as a dangerous hangover from those gala days is the comfortable habit of blaming every-thing on
the devil. No one was supposed to feel any personal guilt; the devil had done it, so why blame the sinner for the devil's
misdeeds? He became the universal scapegoat, to take the blame for every bit of human deviltry from Adam to the present day.
One gathered that we genial and lovable sinners are not really bad; we are merely led astray by the blandishments of that
mischievous old Puck of the heavenly places. Our sins are not the expression of our rebellious wills; they are only bruises where
the devil has been kicking us around. Of course sinners can feel no guilt, seeing they are merely the victims of another's
wickedness.

Under that kind of teaching there can be no self-condemnation, but there can be, and is, plenty of self-pity over the raw deal
we innocent sinners got at the hand of the devil. Now, no Bible student will underestimate the sinister work of Satan, but to
make him responsible for our sins is to practice deadly deception upon ourselves. And the hardest deception to cure is that
which is self-imposed.

Another doctrine which hinders God's work, and one which is heard almost everywhere, is that sinners are not lost because
they have sinned, but because they have not accepted Jesus. "Men are not lost because they murder; they are not sent to hell
because they lie and steal and blaspheme; they are sent to hell because they reject a Saviour." This short-sighted preachment is
thundered at us constantly, and is seldom challenged by the hearers. A parallel argument would be hooted down as silly, but
apparently no one notices it: "That man with a cancer is dying, but it is not the cancer that is killing him; it is his failure to accept
a cure." Is it not plain that the only reason the man would need a cure is that he is already marked for death by the cancer? The
only reason I need a Saviour, in His capacity as Saviour, is that I am already marked for hell by the sins I have committed.
Refusing to believe in Christ is a symptom of deeper evil in the life, of sins unconfessed and wicked ways unforsaken. The guilt
lies in acts of sin; the proof of that guilt is seen in the rejection of the Saviour.

If anyone should feel like brushing this aside as mere verbal sparring, let him first pause: the doctrine that the only damning sin
is the rejection of Jesus is definitely a contributing cause of our present weakness and lack of moral grip. It is nothing but a neat
theological sophism which has become identified with orthodoxy in the mind of the modern Christian and is for that reason very
difficult to correct. It is, for all its harmless seeming, a most injurious belief, for it destroys our sense of responsibility for our
moral conduct. It robs all sin of its frightfulness and makes evil to consist in a mere technicality.

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This may help you in clarifying the dangers of this false doctrine, and it's affects on the modern church.

I look forward to talking with you again. God bless.

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Subject: Roy


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Date Posted: 10:39:23 04/25/02 Thu

Date Posted: 10:54:14 04/23/02 Tue

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Pac accusing me, Tamarisk, and Dolly especially of being "murderers" over a couple of days.
Josiah, Tamarisk, Dolly, thank you all for your forgiveness for my past offenses.

Please let me clarify what I meant by what I said. I remember saying that "once saved, always saved" theology "COULD" led “those kind of religionists” to commit murder in the name of God, thinking that they will still go to heaven. I.e., Like many of those persons who are members of “Soldiers in the Army of God”. I tried to convey to you that those type individuals might be "prone" to do murder, if they really believed that.

I didn’t mean it literally of you all, and I don’t think I said that exactly. I said “potential.” If you remember, someone at the Reagan forum had said Reagan “had” people killed while in office. So I took that and ran with it reversing those accusations of him, to include the person who made that statement, and those who supported him in it. Again, I believe I used the word “Potential”, and it was meant to be a “wake-up” call to the person who posted that accusation against Reagan, and also to those who supported that person in his statement.

As you know there is a regular poster at Religion 1 who preaches that after a person becomes a Christian, they can “backslide and live a life of habitual depravity in “total darkness” and still enter into the kingdom of God. I believe I said it is those types of so-called-Christians who are more “potentially” capable of doing murder in the name of God, than those "true" Christians who believe that followers of Jesus are to "live in the light, and He is in the light. Anyway, that is what I was trying to convey to you all. I am truly sorry if you misunderstood what my meaning was. There was a lot of “mud” slinging going on both ways and generally included me and everyone else who posted at the Religion 1 site.


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Sorry, I goofed up deleting those posts so I did a C&P on your post above.

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Date Posted: 11:23:32 04/25/02 Thu

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Here is my response.

Sorry it has taken a while to get back to you.

Concerning accusing us of being "murderers", let me refresh your memory with your own words.

In November on the Reagan forum, when you slandered St. Iguanas, whom you mistook for Tamarisk or me, for several days, you said;
"By the admission of your own mouth, you'd rather visit inmates and perverts in prisons than be friends with Catholics on any forum."
When you were repeated asked for evidence to substantiate that false accusation, you had none. I do understand that you were copying the same kind of slanderous techniques employed by the Gossip Cult over at R1.
But here is where you false accused St. Iguanas of being a murderer in the same post the above quote came from:
"By the admission of your own mouth, you'd kill abortion doctors if given half a chance."
Sorry Roy, you can rationalize all you want, and try to rationalize away that blatant slanderous accusation of something as serious as murder, but the fact remains that when you again were pressed for any evidence that St. Iguanas, Tamarisk, me or anyone had, as you put it, "By the admission of your own mouth, you'd kill abortion doctors----you had NONE! As a matter of fact, that statement amounts to bringing false witness, which God hates.

I sincerely hope you are able to see that false accusation was slanderous, bearing of false witness, and a complete fabrication.

When we bring a charge, we also bring evidence for that charge...at the Devil's Playground called R1, they slander when having PMS Syndrome hissy fits...I'm glad to see you are no longer playing their wicked games.

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Date Posted: 14:06:00 04/25/02 Thu

But here is where you false accused St. Iguanas of being a murderer in the same post the above quote came from:
"By the admission of your own mouth, you'd kill abortion doctors if given half a chance."

It seems that because of his many anti-abortion posts, and from things he said in those posts, I must have came to that conclusion, believing he had said something to that effect.

I have apologized for making that statement in that he has since denied he would do anything like that personally.

Please, can we now move on to things more constructive, unless I’m not forgiven. And if that is the case, then this will be my last post here.

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Subject: New Forum


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Date Posted: 14:44:32 04/22/02 Mon

Josiah,

Thank you for inviting me here, especially in light of past offences on my part. Hopefully, pray-fully, this can be the start of a new and open discussion forum, without Moderators who are in constant need of estrogen hormone therapy. The Moderators at Susan’s forums have from the beginning been inconsistent, unfair, and dishonest brokers in their moderation. I just finished reading there. If I had posted any of that stuff it would have been deleted the minute it hit the screen. And anyone who tells them so are “banned” from their forum, because criticism isn’t well received by them or Susan.

I have enjoyed reading you other forum, where the truth of God's Word as written in the Bible is preached/taught. Tamarisk, you, Dolly and others have done a good job or presenting the GOSPEL of Jesus Christ to a LOST and dying world.

~ R ~ They don't know what religious debate is all about..

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Date Posted: 16:46:38 04/22/02 Mon

I can't say how glad I am to see that you have seen through the hypocritical facade of the mods and others there are R1.

I wished I'd checked here sooner so we could talk some more. I'm about done for the day myself.

I was going to post a message to you concerning "forgiveness" at the "blue room" yesterday, but for some unforseen reason, didn't, even though I had it all prepared. After reading your heartfelt letters to the "forum administrator" at the "blue room", I understood why then. The Lord wanted me to read your letters first.
Roy, I have to say, they were moving letters, especially considering how much we have been praying for you, hoping your eyes would be opened to the hypocrisy, manipulations and apostasy being promoted by the gossipy women there at R1, especially.
There is a lot more I could say about that, and will as time moves along.
For the meantime, before stopping for the evening, I wanted to let you know that we do forgive you, and that we knew all along that you had fallen prey to the Jezebel's manipulations over at that Devil's Playground called R1.
We had been praying that God deliver you from that pit.
Sadly, those witchy women there have no idea just how lost they are there.
For example, you may remember an episode over at Reagan, when you had been manipulated by dorki dori and the Word/Faith charismaniac CON-E into accusing me, Tamarisk, and Dolly especially of being "murderers" over a couple of days.
Then, when you realized you had been wrong, you posted the following at the "Churchianity, Word of Faith, Lying Signs & Miracles" forum(www.webforums.com/forums/f-read/msa56.81.html):
Pac1
In Response to: forum

"If anyone was praying for this "sinner" today at Reagan forum....well, I needed it. May God forgive me a sinner, in Jesus name, Amen."


You were under conviction and were appropriately confessing, seeking repentance and forgiveness in accordance with the Word.

Here is how Kimmy responded:

Moderator's Response: You were not a sinner...your doubts were legitimate and most would agree with you.(Don't be so hard on yourself because like "HH" told you, it was brought on by he(acnr) himself...(boy who cried wolf scenario) We do care---Kim

Kim's response was from Satan and this world, NOT God.

You were absolutely correct, but Kim was trying to prevent you from confessing and repenting. Her only "care" was in protecting the Gossip Cult of those witchy women there at R1, and as you have seen, as soon as you stand against them----they could give a flip---they are not interested in the truth there.....their only interest is in protecting their little lies and Gossip Cult.

I may elaborate more on this later, but now I need to get some rest.

Welcome back brother.(smile)

God bless and keep you always. Shalom.

Seeya tomorrow.

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Subject: New Forum


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Date Posted: 14:41:07 04/22/02 Mon

Josiah,

Thank you for inviting me here, especially in light of past offences on my part. Hopefully, pray-fully this can be the start of a new and open discussion forum, without Moderators who are in constant need of estrogen hormone therapy. The Moderators at Susan’s forums have from the beginning been inconsistent, unfair, and dishonest brokers in their moderation. I just finished reading there. If I had posted any of that stuff it would have been deleted the minute it hit the screen. And anyone who tells them so are “banned” from their forum, because criticism isn’t well received by them or Susan.

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Subject: Hi Roy


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Date Posted: 11:56:18 04/22/02 Mon

Good to see you. We are the first to post here.
I thought this would be easier than e-mail for discussion....what do you think?

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