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Date Posted: 23:16:01 08/11/02 Sun
Author: Glory
Subject: "Perspective" is a key word here.
In reply to: UHC 's message, "Re: Well Hey I've got a minute or two" on 19:53:43 08/11/02 Sun

Church, you are forgetting that the style the Buffyverse is written in is not the same as "real-life" fiction. Operatic, even. You cannot judge what is going on by normal reality standards the same way you can a show like, say, NYPD Blue or Law & Order. Buffy is written as over the top, campy sometimes. Anya is a Vengeance demon. It's what she does. It's what she did before she met Xander and everyone knows that.

In a show which routinely uses alternate realities, spells, dreams, and the like, it is completely appropriate for Anya to try to curse Xander horrible. The show has always played around with rules rahter than strictly following them. And you'll note she couldn't do it, because of a rule Joss invoked. Oh, look at that. Too bad. Vengeance demons can't grant their own wishes. Isn't that convenient. Made for a damn funny episode too, didn't it?

My point is, in the Buffyverse, Anya trying to work black magic on Xander is completely different than Xander grabbing a gun and blowing her brains out in a crime of passion. The ratio of magickal (and therefore, undoable) violence to physical violence (undoable) on this show has got to be at least 3-1. This is not realistic fiction. The nornmal standards of good/ evil, chaos/order, life/death/right/wrong are constantly being played with and stretched. A think you're interpreting things a little too literally.

Well, you wanted your demon back, didn't you? ;) I'm not trying to antagonize you, I'm just speaking my mind. Hopefully we can get a fun convo going. Or you could delete me. Whatever you want, sweet Board Daddy, it's your world. *kiss*

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[> [> [> You've brought this up before and I do n't agree -- UHC, 23:47:51 08/11/02 Sun [1]

I understand what you are saying but I disagree. Intent is still there. And whether it was mystical or not. to me she did this. Now yes you are right. The audience in no way saw it as I did. but to me this is what she did to Xander. To me she is an attempted murderer of her boyfriend. It was played off as funny as they have done before. But I thought it was anything but.

And I still hold that my initial point was lost by how I worded what I said.
Its possibly not that Xander needs to forgive her, and he really never knew all the vengence stuff she was trying to do. But Xander had some huge issues with her sleeping with Spike. And from the beginning of season spoilers, it seems he is over them. This has suprised me. It seems like they had him forget. Now I know you can argue all day long whether or not he should forgive and should get over it.
But I"m saying that the writers apparently did. And Xander is not known for letting a thing go easily.
My key worry was that if they have him let that go, they would have him be easier on Spike too. And that much screwing with Xander's character with no reason I wouldn't like. If they give a reason he gets past Spike's acts, then I can maybe understand.


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