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Date Posted: 09:51:09 02/02/06 Thu
Author: in the gym
Subject: Tatiana Ortiz

I was at the Marshall VS Von game last, and Ortiz game has fallen off big time. She played scared as hell down the stretch. she was throwing the ball away, didnt want the ball. And to top that off she made #20 throw the ball backcourt cause she was standing there calling for the ball. That play probably lost them the game. Ive been watch'n Ortiz play since she was in the 8th grade. I thought she was going to be a killa. That kid has hit a brick wall, meaning she has not gotting any better. She plays lazy, she dont stick no D, and she scary. I know her coach has to be dissapointed with how she plays,esspecially since that team plays so many freshmen, you would think that she would be the leader. After watching last night I think #2,#20,#50,#15 are the leaders. Ortiz,is overrated, she got game, but she lazy, and she has NO HEART!!! Check yourself player,better yet bring your A game the next time you play in a big playoff game. Von holla at your girl

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[> Re: Tatiana Ortiz -- D_White_21, 12:07:12 02/02/06 Thu

I ani't gone lie that play did cost them the game, but overall they play'd good, wen i walked in the gym wit like 2 minutes 2 go in the 2nd quarter Von was down by 12, at half time the was down by 5 and wit in 2 minutes in the 3rd quarter they were up by 1 and then Marshall called a time out, so lets see they scored 13 points in about 4 mintues. And if you take away all the bad calls the Refs called, if you give von about 6 fouls that the refs didn't call, and if von would have made about 80% of there free throws, then Von would have probaly won by like 12, but i'm gone give marshall credit they had great D i think the scored off every turn over Von made in the 2nd half, but off that game i wouldn't say tati fallin off, i guess it just one of them day, every body has them no ones perfect


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[> [> Re: Tatiana Ortiz -- Iagreew/IntheGym, 06:56:57 02/03/06 Fri

Tatiana Ortiz has definetly lost her edge. She use to be obviously better than a lot of people but people have begun to catch up. I have been watching Tatiana play since her freshman year and she has continued to lose my interest. She has absolutely no heart. Before the freshman that team was extremely boring to watch. They had no emotion but now #2, #50,#10, and even there one senior have stepped up and brought the enthusiasm. I hear Tatiana was nominated for all city but i dont think she deserved it. She is taking some one elses spot who has worked hard all season, plays with heart and works hard all of the time. People need to stop giving her credit and pub. just because of who she is or really who she WAS. Von will be a team to watch in the up and coming years but it looks to me as if they will need to count on #10 or #2 to be the Point Guard. It's sad but reality time to face the facts.


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[> [> [> Re: Tatiana Ortiz -- ball"r, 09:04:27 02/03/06 Fri

Tatiana aint shit no more. She living off past hype. That girl is overrated. She has a nice shot, but what else does she bring to the game? she dont work hard, she dont play hard, she dont be on no hype shit out there. She outta there. Ms.AAU,MS.ADIDAS,Ms.Von aint showed me shit all year, and Ive seen Von play several times this year. If i was the coach i would sit her lazy ass down. She sucks these days.


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[> [> [> [> Re: Tatiana Ortiz -- Tati Fan, 20:13:06 02/03/06 Fri

Last I checked, Tatiana had not done anything to you all on this board so even if she is not playing as well as she should why are you all hating so hard on her.

She just hit a flat spot and say what you will but that past hype is gonna send her to a good school for free.

She made all-city again, is gonna go to adidas camp again and she goin DI - no matter what all you idiots think


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[> Re: Tatiana Ortiz -- Danielle #32, 00:34:50 02/04/06 Sat

Not to burst your bubble, but tati is too small to go D1 honestly. Yeah you right all that past hype could POSSIBLY get her into school for free,( I doubt it) but you gotta think about it like this... a D1 coach isnt gonna want someone who hits a "flat spot" they want someone who can deliver ALL THE TIME and she's too small to go D1 she's barely like 5'6 maybe 5'7 the average PG for D1 is about 5'9 about 5'10, she's got some growing to do.....and from the games that I've seen and the ones I've played in against her I noticed that it's not that she so much as lazy, but that she has this sort mentality to play really layed back and nonchalant, or I could be wrong maybe she is just lazy, but I dont really think thats it. Im not trying to talk about her but I'm just stating some facts.


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[> [> Re: Tatiana Ortiz -- Kenny, 05:53:41 02/04/06 Sat

Ivory Latta plays D1 basketball and she's 5'5 1/2. The shortest player in the WNBA is 5'2 and she gets substantial playing time. Muggsy Bougues is 5'2 and he played in the NBA. It's not the size of the dog in the fight, It's the size of the fight in the dog. Tati's height isn't her issue. And yea ol' girl was right, despite what we say, Tati will probably end up playing D1 because some schools have already talked to her. But the truth of the matter is that Tati just ISN'T what she's cracked up to be. So what she played with all boys when she was younger, so what she's made the all-city team, so what she was given honors at all these camps that she has attended. I NeVeR thought that Tati was all that. I've always thought that she was extremely over-rated and only had a shot. There are girls in the IHSA who play much better than her but never had the chance to be on an AAU team or go to little fancy camps. The girls that I'm talking about played outside (street ball) and when they got to highschool they joined there teams. Tati had a whole bunch of hype surrounding her before she got to H.S because of all the organized basketball that she had played. But point blank, she didn't prove to be terrificly better than all you other IHSA girl players. I'm not surprised that everyone is starting to see her for what she is now. And yeah, some D1 schools have showed interest in her, but none of them were real good schools. I think that Tati should HuRrY uP and commit (to one of the schools that has talked to her) because it's becoming TeRrIblY obvious that she aint all-that. And No, she didn't fall off because she was never REALLY up there. She was over-rated. Whoever wants to claim that she's just hitting a hard-spot needs to recognize what a hard spot is for Tati. A hard spot for Tati is not having her shot (which is all she has). So if this is the case; Even when she gets her shot back, she still won't be all-that.
She isn't worthy of all the hype that she has received.

P.S- Tati's height definately isn't the issue. It's all about heart, skills, and the right attitude, and I honestly believe that a short person (sh*t, 5'1) could take NCAA basketball by storm one day. Don't under-estimate short people. Anything is possible.


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[> [> [> Re: Tatiana Ortiz -- Danielle #32, 15:31:54 02/04/06 Sat

okay well then scratch what i said about the height thing but i still think that her attitude during games isnt gonna help any.


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[> [> [> [> Re: Tatiana Ortiz -- +Truth+, 11:44:08 02/06/06 Mon

Danielle you just straight hatin rite now. U play ball so i can't even believe yoy just made that height comment, but for real every body just need to lay off tati, she can shoot, that might be the best or only part of her game ppl might say but look at Katie Copko,Jassmine Harvey,Sam Woods, these are all players who are straight shooters, and honest even though you need every part of the game these players have proven that you can get by with out it, not if you can pull up frm NBA range with a defender and make that shoot well honestly you don't need to drive, and as far as defense goes tati just all in your face trying to get a steal shes more laid make like a let me rest on defense type player, she like to contain her player from what i've seen rather than going from the steal, so just lay off, because no matter what you all say every college coach wants a player that can shoot so no matter what yall say i bet she end up at a D1 school so just stop hatin


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[> [> [> [> Re: Tatiana Ortiz -- +Truth+, 11:46:14 02/06/06 Mon

Danielle you just straight hatin rite now. U play ball so i can't even believe you just made that height comment, but for real every body just need to lay off tati, she can shoot, that might be the best or only part of her game ppl might say but look at Katie Copko,Jassmine Harvey,Sam Woods, these are all players who are straight shooters, and honest even though you need every part of the game these players have proven that you can get by with out it, now if you can pull up from NBA range with a defender and make that shoot well honestly you don't need to drive, and as far as defense goes tati just not all in your face trying to get a steal shes more laid make like a let me rest on defense type player, she like to contain her player from what i've seen rather than going from the steal, so just lay off, because no matter what you all say every college coach wants a player that can shoot so no matter what yall say i bet she end up at a D1 school so just stop hatin


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Tatiana Ortiz -- Tati fan, 18:11:13 02/07/06 Tue

Tati has offers on the table from some major schools. 7 at last check so as bad as she might be, she going to college 4 free! In the end that is what matters. Off to college 4 free!


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