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Date Posted: 13:13:38 08/27/08 Wed
Author: r u sure
Subject: Re: vons startin 5
In reply to: time 2 hoop 's message, "Re: vons startin 5" on 12:08:44 08/27/08 Wed

kiaherra
romesha
laterria
devynn
shonte
I would not start romisha as she does not give the team consistancy. I am questionable on baker it does not appear her heart is in the game. Von has a solid bench and from last years stats A johnson was big in several games last season especially against #1 Hope where she had a game high 19pts, 18pts at hilcrest, 15pts against thornwood and 13pts on another occaision. This kid works harder than everyone on Vons club and she seems to be excluded from the starting rotation. L Taylor had a season high of 29 against Marion literally unstoppable.Shonte saw minimal time last year but her summer has been fantastic according to my sources. Powell is signed and that should be a relief so now she can concentrate on getting her team to state. Baker had some great moments last year she had a season high 21pts against hilcrest but in my estimation not the devynn of old but she can be.

My staring five would be

K Powell
S Clay
L Taylor
A Johnson
D Baker

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[> [> [> [> Re: vons startin 5 -- sporty, 08:28:22 08/28/08 Thu

You must be a sibling or parent of Johnson,because on here as well as chicagohoops.com you mentioned these games she played well.where was she in other games. i recall several games where she played just as bad as others.she has heart,but as far as shooting romesha is by far more skilled there.both are good defenders as well,johnson the stronger of the two.with the post play that von has you need a someone who the defense will respect and romesha can stretch a defense. the big knock for romesha is shot selection,she plays tough and heady.honestly who played a bigger role for von last year romesha or alicia. you will say alicia because of your ties to her. she is simply a spark plug who played well on occassions.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: vons startin 5 -- a fan, 08:58:28 08/28/08 Thu

This team has the components to be specail this season.They should be lead by a talented group of post players.From a far I have watched this team play well and horrible at times.Thay are seasoned group but lack a true leadership,some from this unit has to be vocal and lead by example.They were lacking in this department last season.Ego's,parents,and outside influences should be left outside the gym and find some type of unity. my starters would be K.Powell,L.Taylor.S.Clay,D.Baker and R.Taylor.Are they the best five maybe not,butwith the post play Baker very athletic and Taylor their only shooter.

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[> [> [> [> Re: vons startin 5 -- jus thinkin, 10:55:12 08/28/08 Thu

a fan i say tat is a good five but sumtimes it sees d.baker is a great ball handler but refuses to do so at times but e will c...i believe alicia is great off the bench and it does her well she n r.tyalor r both good plyrs but r.tyalor averaged double figures in evry game she had 17pts against wy ther is no way hopson can start alicia ovr her n at times alicia ball handling is a little suspect.. r.taylor can definitely stretch the defense n open it up 4 l.taylor n powell...brandon is also very suspect at times she seems sumtimes very weak and makes poor decisions tat a pg shudnt make but they all have ther days n it will b a season to watch 4 them

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: vons startin 5 -- not either, 12:58:25 08/28/08 Thu

Are you serious R Taylor did not score in double figures every game. In the Marion game L Taylor had 29 the next closest was 9. I am niether parent or sibling of A Johnson but you obviously are connected to R Taylor. I have watched a number of games and I am a person who stays on top of my information. I do not speculate about things I spew facts.R.taylor if you were to check your records you would see Johnson had more double digit games and led the team in scoring more times than R Taylor. I gave facts on all the players not just Johnson. I know basketball and the one thing that effects R Taylors game is she is easily taken out the game mentally and it happens often. If I am the coach I will not start R Taylor.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: vons startin 5 -- what!!!, 14:10:52 08/28/08 Thu

U are wrong again,not connected just stating facts.the game is situtational and with the post play of von,are you actually stating that johnson feels the void of a perimeter threat.R.taylor season was stronger by far.if you put clay,powell,taylor,baker and johnson on the floor who gives you a perimeter threat.baker nice mid range game,but i have seen plenty of ill advised shots from johnson and taylor.the point i'm making is this a defense will know taylor on the floor,the will let johnson conyinue to shoot. it's hit or miss with that jumpshot.taylor shot selection needs improvement,her ability to stay focused as well.by as the the more polished player I would choose taylor.with the exception of the marion game i think taylor performed admirably.they both need so work.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: vons startin 5 -- stop playing, 19:01:51 08/28/08 Thu

See every time I give you a fact you change up on me. You stated R Taylor scored in double figures every game and proved you wrong. All I am saying is this R Taylor shot 25% from 3pt land that is not a threat I am sorry. Look up the stats. She stays in foul trouble check the stats, she consistantly loses focus. I am going to give you one more stat look this one up and get back to me R Taylor had 1 double digit game. Compared to Johnson's 7, I will not tell you what R Taylor's turnover ratio is you might start crying. Von needs to go with something new if they want win.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: vons startin 5 -- wrong again, 20:31:09 08/28/08 Thu

you continue to show your bias as well loyalty to Johnson.you say you have the stats and fact,check again.one double digit game sorry.morgan park,whitney young,team from ohio,several games at hillcrest,and numerous in conference play. you harbor on the mistakes of taylor,but none of johnson's.in a reduced role johnson ability to stay out of foul trouble was evident,her ill advised thinking in believing she's a shooter with horrible perimeter shots.you are obvious a fan,and friend or family memberto johnson.if you so sure of your stats where were you in games taylor played well,i'm just asking.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: vons startin 5 -- Hoping for The Best, 09:52:38 08/29/08 Fri

My comments were not to demean or minimize a player,I hope R taylor enjoys her Senior Year and Von will do great things. I like Von's squad and I hope each player on the team excels in whatever capacity they are given by the coach. Sometimes deabtes can turn into someting negative but that is not my intentions. Good Luck Von.

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[> [> [> [> Re: vons startin 5 -- Come Now, 13:13:44 08/28/08 Thu

Here's something all you are missing Vons post was thier weakest link last year. Powell led the team in scoring once and honestly every post she guarded beat her in all categories. Take the Hilcrest game a unknown scored a career high 22pts and countless rebounds not to mention the kid wore regular glasses. Von has to get some heart and disipline across the board before they can contend. I suspect things will be status quo with this Von team because coach hopson lacks the ability to make this team accountable for their actions.

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