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Date Posted: 13:21:10 06/02/05 Thu
Author: Leif Erlingsson, heretic®
Subject: Oh, I have beliefs. :)
In reply to: Mary, quite contrary 's message, "Watch it!" on 17:02:11 06/01/05 Wed

I believe in calling a stone a stone, in human rights, in justice, etc, etc. I believe in telling the truth, and let the consequences follow. See, I am not smart enough to calculate the consequences (most of the time) so I refuse to take responsibility for what I (most of the time) cannot predict. (Those few times I can predict I will of course take responsibility.) Therefore I believe in saying like it is. I don't know what's the best political system, best belief system, best philosophical system, etc, etc. Therefore I just want to be someone who says and writes what he sees, and hope that together we humans will somehow find out what to do. I know it's naive. It's also democracy.

And on a completely different note: Sweden is as guilty as the US. Our political leaders say yes and amen to Washington all the time and even allowed Washington to remove two Egyptians from Sweden to Egypt for torture. The UN just recently decided that therefore Sweden was guilty of torture (because we allowed the US to arrange for torture in Egypt). There are US owned weapons industries here and even though it's illegal I suspect they manufacture DU-ammo (that radioactively contaminate Iraqis, US soliders and others).

Oh, and I believe (at least!) one more thing: That the shadowy secret power networks that pull us into war and economical ruin and what not cannot defend themself against one thing: People that say how it is to eachother without hidden agendas and loyalties, people who just say the truth. I believe that the truth will set us free.

Leif Erlingsson, heretic®.

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