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Date Posted: 14:22:43 10/16/18 Tue
Author: Knut Holt
Subject: Polls about medical things done to you as child, teenager or adult



Interesting research polls about strange or intrusive medical and psycological exams or procedures kids and adults are subjected to. You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about. The polls already have a lot of interesting testamonials you can read and comment upon.

If the links are not active, you can copy them and use them in the address line of your browser where they will work.
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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

https://www.misterpoll.com/polls/625773

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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his website with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

http://www.mydeltapi.com/erotic-products.htm

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Boy, 16yo, SE Asia, extensive internal and external procedures for research in juvenile prizon

I am male. It happened in Asia, in 2010-2014, 16 years old After reading the answers from that boy in Asia who were at a reform school, I will answer about a similar but even much more extended examination I went through about the same time.

When this happened I was serving a 1-year sentence at a juvenile prison. All I was told was that I was selected to have a special health examination and to be part of some research experiment. My parents was not informed about this.

It happened at a special establishment used for these type of exams. The morning the exam would start I was taken out to a van and driven to the place where the examination took place. As a prisoner I had to wear hand and leg cuffs while being transported and they also put on a blindfold so I couldn't see where we were going. I think the ride took about an hour.

When arrived I was led into a building and through a couple of doors. There inside a small room the blindfold and the cuffs was removed and I was ordered to strip. Uniform was just shorts and t-shirt so it was fast. Uniform was taken by the guards who followed me there.
I do not know why they selected me for this exam.


THE PREPARATIONS AND INITIAL MEASUREMENTS AS EXPERIENCED

They took me into another room with tiled walls and floor where I got an enema to clean out my bowels and then I got to shower. They also shaved off my pubic hair. I don't have much other body hair.

Then I was taken into a examination room where they first began with weighing me and measure me. Like with the other boy they took EVERY measure on my body that can be taken. First my height and then measures around my body and around all my limbs.

They took lots of measures of my genitals both flaccid and erect and also many different measures of my nipples like diameter of nipples and how much they did stick out from my chest. They also took many photos of every part of my body. This was done both while I was standing and laying on a table.


TEST OF BODILY AND MENTAL REACTIONS

After that they put a lot of electrodes all over my body attached to a device. I had to sit in a special chair and arms and legs was strapped to the chair and I had to answer lots of questions and look at many pictures. During these questions some of the electrodes sometimes gave me small electric shocks not painful more like tickling or tingling feeling but very distracting, and I think they checked how I reacted to that.

After that they placed me on a special examination table with many advanced devices around it. My arms and legs and whole body was strapped to the table so I could not move. I also had a tube inserted into my mouth that kept my mouth open and I could not speak.

After they had done a series of tests I then had to do exercises and running on a treadmill and then I was strapped on the special examination again and more tests were done.
The staff all the time wore white coats mouth covers and covers over their hair all I really could see was their eyes.

No one talked to me except for asking questions and telling me what to do.


THE INTERNAL INSPECTIONS AS EXPERIENCED

Many of the internal exams was very unpleasant and painful. For many hours they used a lot of different devices both in my anus and especially in my urethra. Both rigid and flexible rods and tubes were used and I could feel the instruments moving around inside me.
Like with the other boy they was giving very much attention to my nipples and testicles during the whole exam.

I was also given several injections during the exam and some of the injections were put right into both my nipples and also I got injections in my testicles.
I'm not sure if they did something in my belly button there was nothing visible afterwards but I had a strange pain there for a couple of days.

I was not told anything about what they did but many tests and internal examinations were done while I was strapped to the table.


TEST OF URINARY AND GENITAL FUNCTIONS

They took urine samples from my bladder and they made me ejaculate several times. They measured the quantity and how long it took until I could ejaculate again. They filled my bladder with several different fluids some of it hurt quite bad. Especially when they filled my bladder to max and I had to keep it for a quite long time I also had to run on the treadmill with my bladder full and with all the electrodes on my body. A catheter stopped it from leaking out. During the whole time I was there they measured the amount of urine they emptied from my bladder.


ARRANGEMENTS AND ACTIVITIES AFTER THE MAIN EXAM
At the end of the exam they put me to sleep. When I woke up after being held unconscious they told me I was going to stay at this place for a week so they could do more tests. At nights I got to sleep in a small room with just a bed and also with electrodes on me. There was also cameras so they could watch me. I was naked and no cover over me.

My hands was strapped to the bed not very tight but I was not allowed to touch myself. One night they made the room really cold with AC on max and another night it was very hot.

During the days they made more tests and examinations mostly similar to the first day but even more extensive and thorough.

Some days were almost only medical examinations and some days more of exercises. Every morning they used a special device with a tube to clean out my bowels.

I had a catheter all the time except when they did other examinations in my bladder. Every day they also took several samples of my sperm.

Already after the first day my nipples was swollen and very sensitive and got even more so during the week. Also my penis and testicles was very sensitive and penis got hard very often and stayed hard for long time.

After the week guards came to take me back. I was told I had to keep the catheter for some time since my urethra would be very sore. The guards had not brought my uniform so I had to go back to the prison still naked and the guards didn't care about that.

The doctor told that my nipples and genitals would be sensitive for some time so clothes would be uncomfortable to wear. Because of that I did not get a shirt to wear just shorts for the rest of my time.


I was called back for some after check-ups during the following months but these were not at all so extended. They lasted only some hours. Also for the check-ups I had to be totally naked all the time.
My nipples stayed sore and swollen for maybe 3-4 months after the exam and still is bigger and more protruding than before the exam. My testicles felt bigger and heavier than before the exam.

Also now after several years my nipples and penis is still more sensitive than before the exam and my penis often gets fully hard even if I'm not aroused or excited.


SUMMARY OF DETAILS I REMEMBER FROM THE DIFFERENT FACES OF THE EXPERIENCE

Preparations and arrangements

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. They washed my body before the exam. I got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out my stomach. My stomach was cleaned out by a tube incerted into my anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine. I was totally naked through all the procedures. I had to strip totally naked before the exam.

They placed me upon a simple examination table. They placed me upon an advanced surgical table. I was placed to lay on my stomack with streight legs.

I got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got electrodes on my cheast.

I got electrodes on my stomach or hip region. I got electrodes on my legs. I got electrodes on my head.

I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. I got a tube or sond in through my anus. I did not get any anesthesia.

Tests with external equipment

They performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They performed an ECG functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas.

They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube. I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed.

They examined me with an ultrasound device or something similar at my head or neck, my upper body, my stomach area, my shoulder area, my hip aream my arms and legs.

They took x-ray pictures of my chest, my stomach, my shoulder area, my hip area, my limbs.

They used electrodes to record functions inside my head, my chest, my belly, my limbs .


They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.


Internal inspections

They ispected the inside of my nose with a scope They took specimens from my nose with a tube. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope. They took specimens from my throut with a tube.

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from my urethra and bladder with a tube.

They inspected my anus with a speculum. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope. They performed a full colonoscopy with a flexible scope. They inspected me through my anus with an ultrasound probe. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.


Arrangements after the exam

They held me inconscious for some hours. I had IVs into blood vessels. I had electrodes on my head. I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam. I also just lay some time in a bed to recover. Some other type of arrangements.


THE SCHOOL I WENT TO

I went to some other type of school. Not a school a juvenile prison where I was for 1 year in 2013 for a small crime. This was in South-east Asia.


COMMENTS

The boy was surely used in a scientific project to test bodily an mental functions, and to do experiments on body development.

As with the other the purpose also might have been to alter his bodily function, mental reactions and anatomy to conform to standards set by society, or to test ways to make such alternations.

Possibly he got the sentence of 1 year in the prizon mainly to be able to use him as guinea pig in these projects, and the judge highly possibly got honoraries for providing teens to this project.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com


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SOME RESULTS AND TESTAMONIALS FOM MY POLLS AND OTHER OF MY INVESTIGATION

Boy, 12yo, fieldtripp with school class for extensive internal exams through all body openings

I am male. It happened in Eastern Europe. 1980-1989, 14 years old. We got there in a bus in group from our school to a health center, a doctors office. All children in my school of the age group had this procedure.


PREPARATIONS BEFORE THE ORDEAL

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. I was totally naked through all the procedures. I had to strip totally naked before the exam. They placed me upon a simple examination table and also upon something like a dentist's chair but with devices to lift my legs onto.

I was placed in many positions: to lay on my back with streight legs, with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon the devices, on my stomack with streight legs, on my stomach with my legs flexed down and spreadm on my right side, on my left side.

I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got electrodes on my cheast. I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. I got a tube or sond in through my anus. I did not get any anesthesia, except that the tube in my anus might have delivered somesedative medication.


EXAMINATIONS WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an ECG, functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas. They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube. I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed.

They took chest x-ray pictures. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.


INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They ispected the inside of my nose with a scope. They took specimens from my nose with a tube. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope. They took specimens from my throut with a tube.

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from my urethra with a tube. They took specimens from my bladder with a tube.
They inspected my anus with a speculum. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE ORDEAL

I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I had a tube hging in through my nose or down into my stomach. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam.


THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I attended ordinary daytime school.


COMMENTS


This is an standardized extensive examination procedure that selected communities or schools in all parts of the world perform on kids at specific ages. It seems to have begun in the late 1950es and has been going on all the time since then, and it is still going on more than ever. It has however been continually updated with new technology using more advanced endoscopes and computers.

The main purpose of the procedure is a surveillance of the young population it the world and research, but some communities chose to participate because they think this is for the best of the kids or because it makes them keep controle of the kids better. The procedure is probably adminitered by the World Health Organization and certain research institutions, and sponsored by certain foundations too.

The communist block seemed to participate in the same way as the western societies. Interestingly there were less secrecy about this program in the communist block than in the west, while in the west one did not and does not still speak about these procedures to the public.

In the west, the kid is usually heavily anesthetized during the procedure so that heshe does not remember much in most cases. In the eastern societies less anesthesia is used.

Sometimes they perform certain adjustments in the urinary systemm genitalks and digital system of the kids during the procedure, probably to make body functions more regular and according to the time-schedule and standard of the school and society. The tubes down into his stomach and into his anus are an indictaion that this was done with this boy.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com

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THE "CHILD HOUSES" OF THE NORWEGIAN GOVERNMENT

Norway has established centers where authorities or also parents themselves can send children for forensic interrogation, socio-psychological assessment, general physical exam and gynecological style exam. It is the meaning that children can be sent to these centers on very easy and wide criteria. They are cozely called "Statens Barnehus", menaing "the child houses of the government".

The centers are said by authorities to have the purpose of detecting child abuse on children upon suspicion, and investigating child abuse, but by scrutinizing documents from authorities, one can also read that they have the purpose of doing research on children and of surveilling the youngest part of the population and their parents regarding social, sexual and all intimate matters. One gets the impression that all kids in Norway are planned to get scrutinized at least a couple of times in such a center during childhood and teenhood.

What happens in these child houses are more or less like this.

- The child with guardian enter and there follow a general conversation. They are also offered something light to drink or eat to make them at ease. Highly probably the thing given to the child contain some relaxing stuff to make the child cooperative, but without being overtly doped down.

- The child is interviewed in a cozy room by a especially trained nurse, psychologist or similar without the guardian.

- Then comes a forensic interview in another cozy room by a especially trained police officer. During this interview, everything is videotaped. The interview is also true-time followed by video by a team of psychologists, lawyers, child protective officers and other experts.

- The child is then taken into an examination room, also with a cozy atmosphere and all clothes are taken off the child, if not all at once, it happens stepwise during the subsequent examination.

- They examine the child externally from top to toe, and are especially keen to document any marks of injury. They take photographs of the child totally naked, both whole body postures and details of finding. This is done by a video camera that is discretely placed.

- They place the kid totally naked onto a gynecology table suited for the shape and size of a child, flex and spread the legs of the kid and place the legs onto stirrups or something similar.

- The genitals and buttocks of the kid are spread, and they examine visually and take photographs of all parts. They also take specimen probes from all the intimate openings and some way inside. The intimate area is photographed broadly and in detail with video camera and colposcope.

- They may also place the child in knee-chest position to make the anus open better to look inside and watch reflexive reactions. This is also photographed.

- The room is equipped to do inspection of urethra, bladder, rectum and lower colon under anesthesia. They inform that internal exams are not one, but it the construction of the room is much like a surgery room, but with much of the equipment hided. I guess such intrusive exams is done also, but after luring more anesthesia into the kid.

- The sites have facilties to stay over-night and have staff at place day and night, which is a strong indication that more extensive examination is also done, partly secret for the child and guardian.

- After it all, the child is allowed to take clothes on and the child and guardian have a terminal conversation with the staff. But those that

Everything happening during the ordeal is videotaped and voicerecorded. The photographs taken of the child and videos are deposited in databases belonging to the Norwegian government, and will be there forever. They will be used by many authorities that will have something to do with the child in the years to come, and they will be used in research and education of experts of various kind.

The child himherself or the guardian will not know in detail what the photographs show, will not get access to them, and know how they will be used.

One only informs that photographs taken will be on secure sites.

But Norway being a very messy country, these are only some of many places where these things are done. As with many other things that are held in a cozy and deceptively style, These establishments advertise openly to make as many children as possible to come for assessment. But there is something hideous about the way they describe themselves.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com

To tell about your own experiences, pleas go to this investigative polls:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976


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Girl, early schoolage, North America, tonsillectomy

I am female. It happened at schoolage 6-9, in North America, in the years 1970-1979. I had tonsillectomy or adenectomy. The procedure happened in a hospital. I had to have my tonsils out Parents took me there.


SYMPTOMS AFTER THE PROCEDUTE

I had pain irritition or other problems in my mouth. I had pain irritation or other problems in my respiratory tract or lungs.


ANESTHESIA AND ARRANGEMENTS

They gave me sedative medicines through my anus. They gave me gas through a mask.

My gown was pulled down and off and ekg patches were placed at various places on my bare chest before I went to sleep.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

They kept the gown off but covered with a blanket. When I woke up. I was lying on my side, gown still off. I think they were taking my temp.

I hav iV in hand I had an oxygen mask. No catheter in my bladder. A thermometer in my butt. Ekg pads were still on my chest. They took my rectal temp listened to chest with stethoscope. Woke up in recovery room, throat hurt, I was crying.



COMMENTS

This seems to be a standard tonsillectomy procedure. Children are sometimes sedated before the main anesthesia with medicating injected through the anus. They probably took rectal temperature on here after the procedure. They possibly also placed a suppository with sedative and pain killing medication. They probably placed a tube in her throut just after the gas had made its effect and gave her oxygen and gas through that through the procedure.

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Boy, 16yo, Asia, extensive tests and internal body inspections in Reform School.

I am male. It happened in Asia. 2010-2014, 16 years old. At this time I were at a Reform school or Juvenile detention Center.

The day before the exam I was informed about it and that because of that, I could not eat anything after lunch. As far as I know my parents didn't get any information.
I don't know exactly how they selected the boys being examined, but might be: All children that have shown more than just standard interest for sexual matters. Children with some kind of unusual bahavior or interests.

The exam took place in a separate building within the enclosed area of the Center. I was told to not dress in the morning and was taken to another room together with 4 other boys all naked. From there we were led in a group to the other building where the exams took place. I don't know exactly how they selected the boys being examined.

OVERVIEW OF THE PREPARATIONS AND ARRANGEMENTS

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. They washed my body before the exam. I got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out my stomach. I was totally naked through all the procedures. I had to strip totally naked before the exam.

They placed me upon a simple examination table. They placed me upon an advanced surgical table. I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon two devices.

I got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg.

I got electrodes on my cheast, my stomach or hip region, my legs, my head.

I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. I got a tube or sond in through my anus. I did not get any anesthesia before late in the ordeal where I was uncoscious sveral hours.


THE PREPARATIONS AND INITIAL MEASUREMENTS AS EXPERIENCED

First I got an enema to clean out my bowels and then shower. After that I was taken into a examination room. There they started with weighing me and measure me, taking absolutely every thinkable measure on my body. Of course my height, and also measures around my body like neck, chest, waist, thighs, and such, but then also lots of more unusual places.

They took measures of my genitals (soft and hard), arms legs, fingers, feet, and toes, nose, eyes, mouth, various measures across my upper body, distance between nipples , nipples to navel, navel to penis, diameter of nipples, diameter and depth of navel , and probably some more.
They even pulled hard on my nipples to measure how far they could be stretched. This were done both standing and laying on a table.

Then they put a lot of electrodes all over my body attached to some device, and I had to answer many questions.

After that I was placed on a special examination table with a lot of advanced equipment around it. I was strapped to the table so I could not move. During the exam they changed position of my arms first to the side of my body, then stretched above my head. I also had a tube inserted into my mouth that was strapped in place so it could not come out.

EXAMINATIONS WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They performed an ECG functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas. They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube. They did some other type of test with advanced machines.

They examined my head or neck, upper body, stomach area, shoulder area, hip area, arms and legs with an ultrasound device or something similar.

They took chest x-ray pictures. They took stomach x-ray pictures. They took x-ray pictures of my shoulder area. They took x-ray pictures of my hip area. They took x-ray pictures of my limbs.

They used electrodes to record functions inside my head, at my chest, at my belly, at my limbs.


They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.


OVERVIEW OF INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They ispected the inside of my nose with a scope They took specimens from my nose with a tube. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope. They took specimens from my throut with a tube. They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope.

They took specimens from my urethra and bladder with a tube.

They inspected my anus with a speculum. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope. They performed a full colonoscopy with a flexible scope. They inspected me through my anus with an ultrasound probe. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.


THE INTERNAL INSPECTIONS AS EXPERIENCED

The internal exams was quite unpleasant, some was even painful since I didn't get any anesthesia. I don't know what they actually did but it took a long time, and they used many different devices both in my anus and especially in my urethra.


Also during the whole exam they gave very much attention to my nipples and testicles. They also gave me some injections during the exam, and one time they gave injections right into both my nipples. They did so many things while I was strapped to the table. No one told me anything about what they did.

But among others they took urine samples from my bladder, they made me ejaculate several times measuring the quantity and the time, until I could ejaculate again.
They filled my bladder to measure the volume, and then also injected several different fluids into my bladder some of them stung quite bad before it was flushed out again. At some occasions they filled my bladder to max and kept it in there for a quite long time.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

They held me inconscious for some hours I had IVs into blood vessels. I had electrodes on my head. I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam. I just lay some time in a bed to recover.

When I woke up after being held unconscious I was told I had been circumcised for health reasons and that I was to have a catheter in place for 2 to 3 weeks since they had done something inside my urethra.

All the equipment except for the catheter was removed a little while after I woke up Then I was allowed to lay down on a bed for about an hour before I was taken back to my own bed. I walked back naked together with the other boys being examined that day. The whole procedure took over 12 hours. The next day I (and probably the other boys) was allowed to stay in bed to rest.

FOLLOW-UPS IN THE TIME AFTER


The circumcision healed good and quite fast and the catheter was removed by the ordinary facility nurse after about 3 weeks.
My nipples were swollen and enlarged for several months after the exam and are still larger than before the exam. My nipples and genitals are also more sensitive after the exam.


I was called back for some after check-ups duting the following months but these were not at all so extended. They lasted only 1-2 hours. Also for the check-ups I had to be totally naked all the time.


THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I went to some other type of school. It was a Reform School or Juvenile detention center whatever you like to call it where I was placed for two years at that time (2012-2013).


COMMENTS

This ordeal seems to have 4 purposes.

It was an extensive health check, that included inspections and functional tests of all body regions and all basic physical and psychological reactions.

The second puprose was to know as much about the boy so that they could best plan his reform schedule and daily handling.

The third purpose seems to be anatomical body adjustments so that his body functions conformed as exact as posible to the shedules in the reform school and to correct functional problems that hi might have. They probably found something in his urinary system they decided to adjust.

All the flusing of his bladder with different fluids were probably preparations before the adjustments and the circumcission which were done surgically when he was uncoscious at the end of the ordeals.

The forth purpose seems to be scientific research regarding bodily reactions and development. The strange handling of his nipples and testicles probably had that purpose.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm


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Sister 14yo and brother 12yo getting puberty check and psychological assessment together

I am a female. My brother and I were examined together so I will try to tell you what happened to both. I was 14 and my brother was 12, Year 2000 or after. In North America, Idaho. I was examined in a healthh center. we were driven there by Mom and a doctor examined us.

OVERVIEW OF THE EXAM

They examined my head, teeth or jaws. They did an orthopedic exam. They examined my genitals and did a general examination of my pelvic zones. They performed a psychological exam. They made interrogations about my social relations and my daily life.

ARRANGEMENTS

They examined me and my brother together. I was totally naked. My positions during the exam: on table mostly.

THE PROCEDURE STEP BY STEP

Firstly they told my brother and I to undress. Then they instructed us to pay close attention to each other's bodies, what makes us different. Thirdly they shaved off our pubic hair and my armpit hair. Then did the full physical exam on us.

And then asked us lots of personal questions during the exam, about our masturbation habits. They also had us urinate into cups. The exam ended this way: told us "now that you have seen each other, there are no more secrets. Please add further comments. As we got dressed again, the doctor told me not to put my bra back on, talked about breast ligaments

OPINION ABOUT THE ORDEAL

What do you think was the reason for this exam? My brother had been spying on me a lot, I think they wanted to put an end to i. What is your opinion about thios experience? Well we weren't as curious about each other any more, but it was very embarrassing.

URINARY AND GENITAL EXAM

They had us pee into cups. They palpated the outar male genitals and testicles of my brother. They slid down his foreskin and spread my urinary opening. They let him masturbate to collect a semen specimen.

They palpated my outer female genitals. They spread my genital lips to look inside. They examined my vagina with a speculum.

RECTAL CHECK

They spread our cheeks and examined extarnally our rectal zone. They examined our rectum with an inserted finger. They did this for both my brother and I as we watched each other.

SOCIAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSESSMEMNT

Someone came and performed a psychological test even though I was called in for quite another thing. The psychological parts were during the physical exam.

FOLLOW-UPS

Psychological or social counceling as follow up. They gave our parents a lot of paperwork with their findings but we weren't told.

COMMENTS

First of all this was a check of development and pubertial status, and this part is probaly standard in this community.

But they added an assessment about the relationship between the sister and brother, and did so with direct observation. This also seemed to be a direct education of both of them about the difference between the two sexes. Furthermore this was a also an assessment on the psychological development with focus on the relationship between mental feelings and body.

The reason for this part of the exam was surely concern for possible sexual relationship between the prother and the sister and for the psychological development of both.

In some communities such a direct observation and education will be regarded as inappropriate, but not necessarily in all communities. It is possible that the doctor arranged it this way for own sexual gratification, but it may also be a standard in this community by certain concerns.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm


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Girl 13yo North America pubertal status exam plus hair removal

I am a female. I was a teenager. My exact age when this occured. 13 The exam occured in Washington, Year 2000 or after, in North America.

OVERVIEW OF THE EXAM

I was examined in a hospital. They examined my head teeth or jaws. They did an orthopedic exam. They examined my genitals. They did a general examination of my pelvic zones. I was totally naked.

THE EXAM STEP BY STEP

First they forced me to get naked. I was embarrassed to let my dad see me but they pulled my clothes off. Then carefully and completely went over my body head to toe, commenting on every part, proportion etc Thidly forced me to walk down the hall naked to another room Then washed me in a little shower cubicle

They then lathered me up and shaved my whole body saying girls my age should have no body hair. They also rubbed a cream into my genitals, armpits, legs and arms, saying it would stop hair growing back. The exam ended by drying me off, walked me back to the first room so I could put my clothes back on


COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM THE GIRL ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE

What do you think was the reason for this exam? I guess this is normal? No other girls I know have any hair so does everyone go through this? What is your opinion about this experience? I was so totally embarrassed.

INTIMATE EXAM

They did not examne my urinary system. They palpated my outer female genitals. They spread my genital lips to look inside. They examined my vagina with a speculum. They spread my cheeks and examined externally my rectal zone.

OBSERVATIONS

Nothing other real weird happaned. Dad said he would check me periodically to see if any hair was growing back


COMMENTS
Firstly this was an exam to check the puberty status and this part is normel at least in some communities.

The removal of hair does not seem normal. It vary conciderably how much hair a girl has at the age if 13. It is normal not to have body hair and also normal to have some at this age. But it seems that all girls in this community are held hairless.

It looks like the hair removal is a preparation for a more thorrough medical procedure planned at a later stage that all girls and also boys go through in some communities. In this procedure also the inside of the urinary system and lower digestive system is inspected. One also perfroms inspections through the nose and mouth and test of body functions.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com

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