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James
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Date Posted: 14:06:13 10/25/00 Wed
In reply to:
Tommy
's message, "Re: who is worthy??" on 21:12:04 10/24/00 Tue
Tommy,
Well what they mean is like this... We have all this sin all over us. And let's pretend it's dust or dirt. We can't clean ourselves off because everything we touch gets dirty and so we would only be cleaning ourselves with more dirt. But Jesus was a perfectly clean, white cloth. So he wiped us clean with his cloth, but then his cloth got all dirty. So all the dirt in the world got on that cloth. So he who was clean became dirty so we could become clean. But God put him throught the washing machine and he came out clean as ever. So that's what it means when he took our sins away. First he took them upon imself, as if he were guilty of them all. Then he irradicated them with his ressurection.
> James,
> It was really no big deal ....Sometimes things like
> that just cross my mind is all and I just wanted to
> ask you about it. Can I ask you another question ?
> What does it mean when they say Jesus Christ took on
> the sins of the world? They don't he took on the sins
> do they? Don't they mean something else?
> Tommy
> > Tommy.... what are you getting at? What's on your
> > mind? I know there's more to that than just a passing
> > question. So you better tell me what's up :)
> >
> > But to answer your Q:
> >
> > It doesn't make sense that he would be sinful like
> us.
> > If that were the case why couldn't anybody just die
> > for us? Here is my point. He had to be perfect,
> > because in being perfect, he had the option of taking
> > the sins of the world upon himself. Had he any sin of
> > his own, he wouldn't have even had that choice. He
> > would have shared the same fate as all those who were
> > sinful Tommy. He would have HAD to die, but as it
> was,
> > he didn't have to die, yet he basically chose to do
> > that for us.
> >
> > So, that can not really be an option for him to be
> > sinful like us. But I really want to know the reason
> > you asked that.
> >
> > But hypothetically, I wouldn't care if he was sinful
> > or not. If he was still my redeemer I would love the
> > man all the same. I don't try to put limits on God,
> > but nor do I understand Him in any way but in the
> most
> > miniscuel way. I love Him for what he did for me, and
> > for what he is, my God and my redeemer, my savior.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > After dealing in Colorado, I've realized that
> many
> > > > people have a low self worth. Which I find very
> > > > troublesome. I'm just glad that it is not we who
> > > > determine our worth!
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it is a fact that we are not perfect, we
> mess
> > up
> > > > and we make serious errors. Sometimes our past is
> > not
> > > > something to be proud of, or something we don't
> > want
> > > > even our closest friends to know.
> > > >
> > > > But those burdens are carried around with us, and
> > you
> > > > know what? We don't have to!!! There is no wrong
> > that
> > > > cannot be forgiven by Jesus Christ, there is no
> > > burden
> > > > that he cannot lift from our shoulders. Nothing.
> He
> > > > has done all things needed to forgive, and redeem
> > us.
> > > > We can leave those burdens at the cross with Him,
> > and
> > > > walk away scott free. Free from those burdens,
> free
> > > > from the guilt, free from the shame of our past.
> > > There
> > > > is noting his blood cannot cover.
> > > >
> > > > You see he values us so highly! How highly?
> Highly
> > > > enough to shed that blood, and what is worth more
> > > than
> > > > the blood of Jesus Christ? NOTHING! So guess what
> > > > folks? We are valued as high as the blood of
> Jesus.
> > > HE
> > > > would sacrifice that blood in order to buy us
> back
> > > > from sin and death! I feel that is such wonderful
> > > > news.
> > > >
> > > > So to all those who may feel worthless. Look to
> > Jesus
> > > > and see the price he paid for you. You are not
> > > > worthless, but woth more than the pricless blood
> of
> > > > the son of God!!!
> > > :
> > > You know what James? You are exactly right ! The
> > > question I want to ask you though is even though
> his
> > > blood and saqcrifice were enough to save us would
> > > you hypthetically love him back if he turned out
> out
> > > be be sinful just like us and while he was human
> > > messed up if not more than most of us? Or in that
> > > case would you reject him? I know you will sy that
> > he
> > > and his love is perfect but that is not the
> question
> > I
> > > am posing for you. I am asking you how you would
> > react
> > > if you found out he was just as imperfect as you
> and
> > > or me and yet his blood saved us how you would
> eact.
> > > LOve
> > > Tommy
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