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Subject: Re: Right....


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James
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Date Posted: 15:42:38 09/28/00 Thu
In reply to: Terry 's message, "Right...." on 22:48:22 09/27/00 Wed

If you were to try to hang me on a cross BECAUSE I was a Christian. I wouldn't LET you. I would try to escape that. Of course. But I would not expect any Christian "retaliation" and them to go out and hang YOU on the cross because you hung me. I would expect that the law would deal with that.

But at the same time if I were killed because I was a Christian, I would be martyred adn all the better for me! Martyrs have a special place in God's Kingdom.

Many people like the apostles were beaten, floggeed, stoned, hung, killed all because of their faith. They did not retaliate. And start killing non-christians. They let God handle the vengance part. But that was in a day when the government of their society was against them. There wasn't much they could do about physical harm. There was no one to protect them. Howevre in America I have protection no matter WHAT religion of beliefs I have. It's a different time, place and situation.

I usually hold that turn the other cheek to things that they can't protect me from like people making fun of me because I'm Christian. Free speach and all...

> So your saying that if I wanted to hang you on a cross
> because your Xian then you wouldnt care and let me
> hang you? Oh hell no. See what I mean? Turn the other
> cheak just does not work. There is no reason why
> ANYONE should let anyone beat them down or anything.
> Words are just words but physical violence is a whole
> new monster.
>
>
> > It depends on why the hit me T...
> >
> > If they wanted to take my wallet or something then
> > fine i'd kick the crap out of them. If they wanted to
> > hurt my child for the heck of it then fine I'd defend
> > him/her as well.
> >
> > If they just want to make fun of me because I'm a
> > christian then I could care less. Let them make fun
> of
> > me and stomp on me. I usually take "turn the other
> > cheek" as only in the form of Christians being
> > persicuted. Not in the form of a criminal trying to
> > kill me or rob me or my family or friends.
> >
> > > Just off topic... do you also beleive in the whole
> > > "Turn the other cheek" thing? Because if someone
> hit
> > > me I would straight up kick the hell out of them.
> > Just
> > > wondering.
> > >
> > > > It's one of those things Tommy. People will mock
> > the
> > > > savior. They mocked him when he lived, they
> mocked
> > > him
> > > > on the cross and people still mock him after he
> is
> > > > risen and in heaven. But there's not much we can
> do
> > > > except show them that we love him and honor him
> and
> > > > not retaliate. Just kindly explain to them what
> > they
> > > > might be missing and bless them and send them on
> > > their
> > > > merry way I suppose.
> > > >
> > > > > Steve put the following link ....www.jesus.com
> up
> > > on
> > > > > his message board saying how funny he thought
> it
> > > was
> > > > > ..expecially the shower with Jesus part and
> > > > frequently
> > > > > asked questions. I don't think it's funny at
> all
> > > and
> > > > I
> > > > > have noticed more and more people seem to be
> > > mocking
> > > > > Jesus latley. After I read the whole thing and
> > all
> > > of
> > > > > it's pages it really ticked me off.
> > > > > Sigh
> > > > > Tommy

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