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Date Posted: 01:38:27 06/12/05 Sun
Author: all
Subject: responses
In reply to: Elizabeth-coming out of lurkdom to play 's message, ""FWAFS" time stamps. . .Inside" on 01:32:37 06/12/05 Sun

Ok-- I have a Zula time telling impairment-- What time was it? (NT) -- manette-- welcoming Elizabeth and thanking her for the info!!, 13:09:11 06/04/05 Sat

I'm really not sure myself, but it seems like a little less than three hours have passed. Anyone who can understand Zulu time out there? (Probably a silly question) :) (NT) -- Elizabeth- you're welcome manette!, 13:42:05 06/04/05 Sat

0124 Zulu would be 8:24 p.m. Eastern and 0410 would be 11:10 pm.m Eastern. Somebody might want to go back and check my math. It does make one wonder what all transpired in those 3 hours. (NT) -- dg, 13:45:07 06/04/05 Sat

Subtract 5 hours from Zulu to get to EST (I'm not worrying about daylight savings, lol). The scene at Harm's apt would have been set around 2024 (8:24pm EST), and McMurphy's at 2310 (11:10pm EST). (NT) -- mary48184, 13:45:31 06/04/05 Sat

It's all relevent. What happened in those three hours? I don't think Harm said "I think I just got engaged" He said "I just got l***d"!!! (NT) -- Boston Tiger - three hours of dressing and undressing and dressing again!!!, 14:07:24 06/04/05 Sat

In the original sides, there was some sort of farewell party for Harm and Mac that took place during those three hours. There's some discussion in the sides about how the party was more like a wake and someone, the general maybe, didn't blame Harm for leaving early. Now, since they rewrote the final scene, we are free to speculate what really happened. Either they went to the farewell party, but didn't let anyone know that they had decided to get married, or they got better acquainted at Harm's apartment during those missing hours. (NT) -- Ann, 14:13:46 06/04/05 Sat

I'm for the 'getting better aquainted' idea. I still say that smile on Harms face was more than 'I just got engaged' (NT) -- mkim, 19:53:52 06/04/05 Sat

I have to agree those looks and the kiss said they definitely ‘got better acquainted’ during those 3 hours. (NT) -- Hope, 19:58:48 06/04/05 Sat

Personally, I'd prefer to think that they got acquainted at Harm's apartment but, if so, why Harm is in mess dress at Mc Murphy? (NT) -- foreign lurker, 17:52:57 06/05/05 Sun

They were the only ones who were dressed up, the others who were also supposed to be at the party weren't dressed up at all. So to me it looked they changed the story to reflect Harm and Mac dressing up for the announcement and possibly getting married that same night. (NT) -- Theresa, 14:48:54 06/06/05 Mon

Some of the scenes that were crossed off from the set list were at a hotel patio, valet parking area, and rest room. Hmm. I wonder what that was about (maybe the party they had alluded to in the earlier script sides?). Also, there was is a missing scene between Harm and Bud at Harm's apartment. After reading the script I'm convinced we still got the best we were going to get. Some of the dialog that was omitted was a good thing. (NT) -- Barbie, 17:48:51 06/04/05 Sat

I may be in the minority here, but I think that what was in the final edit is what we need to go with. So, if there were some 3 hours between Harm's apartment/kiss/proposal and McMurphey's, I'd just assume they were playing chess. Come on! They were "exploring the depths of their relationship"! No other explaination to how they related to each other with the "hi" kiss....that was a kiss of people who knew each other intimately. IMHO. (NT) -- clr, 18:03:11 06/04/05 Sat

I thought theyw ere exploring the depths of the esophagus, myself...but that's just my opinion. LOL (NT) -- hsirT, 18:10:32 06/04/05 Sat

IMHO that's a required part of exploring the depths. Oh my, think I'm having a Harmy flash here! (NT) -- clr, 18:20:13 06/04/05 Sat

We saw the PG-13 but those missing hours were definitely H-M R-rated.YOOWWWZA! (NT) -- JosieW, 20:11:25 06/04/05 Sat

I'm chiming in late - but Zulu time is the same as Greenwhich time - which means the same time as England... Now... the happenings.... the party wasn't in the final script... that's why no one else was in mess dress..... so we can only assume what ever they did i those three hours.... LOL.. had little to do with valet parking (NT) -- Chris K, 21:00:27 06/04/05 Sat

this is just my fiction, but since there is no "fact" from TPTB, here's how I think it happened. They kiss/propose/have really major HMS then decide to tell their friends. Both want to do it right, Harm's just been "frocked" for Captain, Mac wants to look her best (not Marine) so they go to their respective apts. , change, call the folks who show up at McM and there you are. (NT) -- clr, 02:17:11 06/05/05 Sun

I read a post on another board that suggested Harm chose Mess Dress - his fanciest uniform - because it could have been the last time he wore one (depending on the coin toss), and possibly the only time he'd be allowed to wear the Captain's bars. Excellent reasoning, and excellent choice by Harm! (NT) -- Ni-Cad, 11:38:11 06/06/05 Mon

Can you tell us more of what was in the originals? Always curious...loved what we got, though...(NT)--Jen (I'm a little late, too), 00:17:45 06/05/05 Sun

There is a scene where Bud comes to Harm's apt. to apologize about Mikey-- they talk for a bit. As Bud is leaving Harm says he'll see him tonight at the party (the one we never saw). Bud asks him if he is doing the right thing. Harm replies, "No. But I'm going to do it anyway." When Mac comes to his apt., after she says, "There's something final about a packed suitcase", there was this:
Harm: Is yours packed
Mac: Standing by the front door. All except for a dress Harm: My favorite color.
Mac: I didn't know you had one.
Harm: It's my favorite on you.
Mac: (teasing) Didn't know you kept track.
After that follows the "let's talk about you and me" part.

There is that conversation with the bartender about Harm's "trick outfit"-- I think that was in the spoiler sides early on. At the bar Coates and Turner have a conversation before going in-- nothing groundbreaking. After Bud flips the coin, at the part where it stops above their heads, it says they were going to superimpose, "The Beginning." I wish they had kept that-- I think it is sweet!--(NT)--Elizabeth, 16:37:27 06/05/05 Sun

Of course, I loved the finale as we saw it, but it would have been really great to have Harm tell Mac that red is his favourite color on her and such. That was sweet. (NT) -- Ava, 17:54:48 06/05/05 Sun

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