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Astrid
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Date Posted: 11:05:53 07/18/02 Thu
In reply to:
Raisinmom
's message, "Re: fundamentalism is scary" on 16:41:08 07/17/02 Wed
>NYC is made up of five boroughs: Manhattan, Brooklyn,
>the Bronx, Queens and Staten
>Island. Most of the sights I expect you would want to
>see -- the Metropolitan Museum
>and the many wonderful smaller museums (my favorites:
>the Cooper-Hewitt and
>especially the Frick), Times Square, the Statue of
>Liberty, Wall Street, Fifth Avenue, the
>Chrysler Building, Lincoln Center (ballet and music),
>Radio City Music Hall, Carnegie
>Hall, the Library -- are in Manhattan. I consider
>Manhattan totally safe during the day at
>least below 96th Street, which is traditionally the
>line where Harlem begins.
That's very cool to hear. So a stay in Manhattan would make the most sense.
But, since we'd likely drive to NYC (not sure yet, but as I say we'd have to coordinate it with a trip to Ottawa/Montreal), would it make sense to stay in a smaller town north of the city (or even Connecticut) and commute to the city each day by train, like some working people do? It sounds like it would cost a fortune to stay in NYC itself. We might be bringing a tent too, to save on costs travelling. I don't suppose we could pitch it in Central Park. ;-)
>Getting around is actually pretty easy in NYC. The
>subway is cheap ($1.50 per ride, no
>matter how far you go) and fast, and kids love it.
>All lines are safe during the day; I
>don't ride the subway after about 9 pm alone, and I
>don't take certain subway lines after
>9 pm at all, even with company (the ones I don't take
>are non-Manhattan lines, and may
>be just fine, but I don't know them as well as my
>usual routes).
So the subway in Manhattan would work fine in the evening? I'm thinking that we should probably postpone this trip or bring along someone to watch the kids so we can see some of the nightlife. It's hard, because I am not the sort of person who wants to go to Disneyland--all my dream trips are pretty unfriendly for children (and parents).
What is your opinion on going to NYC with what will then be a 7 yo and a 3.5 yo (omilord I can't believe it)? Pointless? Crazy? Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think that my goals will just not mesh with theirs. Hm...
Is there a museum that has the history of NYC in it? I have fallen in love with Edith Wharton's New York (who wouldn't?) and I'd love to see what the city looked like in 1900.
>Which brings me to Ground Zero. There ain't much to
>see anymore; it's been paved
>over and is now shocking mostly to NYers who are still
>stunned to see the World
>Financial Center from Fulton Street (it used to be
>blocked by the Towers). And there's
>a sort of gross street-vendor thing that's going on
>around the site.
Ugh. Well, that's capitalism for you, huh? I'm sure that for more than one person it wasn't, "omigod they flew a plane into the WTC" it was, "there's a dollar to be made here somewhere". :-)
I don't have any great urge to see the site itself. I am sad that I won't get to see the buildings themselves--that would have been something. But I don't identify with the urge to visit the place now.
>Okay, I'm sure that was much more info than you wanted
>-- sorry! Like I said, I love
>this city and want others to enjoy it too. Astrid, I
>think you would find it just
>fascinating.
Not more info than I wanted at all!! I am happy to get a good feel for where the attractions are and where it's safest to be.
>On a related subject, did you know (probably!) that
>you can get much of the NY Times
>online at www.nytimes.com? You need to register, but
>it's otherwise free.
Yes, I am registered. But we have a fondness for perusing the newspaper on the weekend. Reading online just isn't the same somehow. Plus I get neck strain. ;-)
And on the subject of NY
>websites, check out http://ndm.si.edu/ (the
>Cooper-Hewitt's site) and www.frick.org
>(self-explanatory).
Thanks!
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