A Blast from Babooshka's Past -- Our Bitch of Hatboro

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Date Posted: 15:59:09 09/15/00 Fri
Author: Oh Baby
Subject: A Blast from Babooshka's Past

Okay.. now that you've hopefully done some of your own research, here is my story. Everyone knows there are two sides to every story, two different ways of looking at exactly the same thing.
First, let me assure you that I am far from the monster that I have been portrayed as being by "Matooshka". I do not deny that I have taken part in many heated discussions with her and I've even called her a few nasty names. However, I feel it is important that you know that most of her other claims are untrue.

I could fill up this page with snippets of actual posts and e mails that would shock you but I refuse to stoop to her level. Let's go over some of her claims. First of all, she claims that this all began because of her stance on abortion. Not so. This began because she chose to shove her opinions down the throats of others to the extent of hurting several grieving Mothers. She does not believe in interrupting a pregnancy for fetal abnormalities, whether fatal or not. That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, she had no right to abuse others the way she did on a public news group called soc.support.pregnancy.loss. Right from the beginning, she knew the charter of the group stated that those who had terminated pregnancies were welcome in the group. Inside, this bothered her. Had she kept it to herself or others in e mail, this whole mess would not have occurred. Instead, Matooshka began a "Christian" pregnancy loss group intended for all pregnancy losses *except* abortion and termination. Fine.. I had no problem with that until her next step of inviting people to join her group. One by one, those who were offended by the personal choice of a parent to spare their child pain joined her group. Then came the day that she invited the wrong person. Once the woman joined, Matooshka (who commonly calls herself "we"), asked for a brief history of her pregnancy loss. When Matooshka found out this woman had terminated due to a fatal defect, she escorted her right out of the group in a rude manner - throwing a few different URL's her way.

I think it would have only taken some common sense to properly advertise the charter of a new group so that those who are "unwelcome" don't join and then end up hurt. At first, I tried to politely discuss a possible change in charter with Matooshka. Each time I e mailed her about it (which is where the discussion belonged), she wrote back with some hateful message and ended her note with, "Do NOT e mail me anymore". Such adult behavior, wouldn't you say?

I might have let it go right there, knowing I was dealing with a mental midget. However, within a few days I saw a post on sspl from a newcomer. This woman had posted originally about the termination of her pregnancy due to Down Syndrome and how she was dealing with the grief. I am aware that she then received an e mail from Matooshka because her next post included that e mail. In the e mail, Matooshka told the woman (whose baby was ALREADY dead and buried) that her doctors were wrong and had she not "murdered" her baby, her baby would be alive and well. I see no good in harassing someone whose choice has already been made, do you?

This is when the discussion became heated. Why? Well, the woman whom Matooshka harassed was not in the frame of mind to defend herself. She was very upset by the ignorant e mail she had received from Matooshka. I had previously told myself that I would let it go *unless* I saw someone else hurt.

Again, I tried to e mail Matooshka and tell her POLITELY how her e mail must have hurt this woman whose baby had died not even a week earlier. I only wanted her to see the damage she had done in the hopes that the next person who opened their hearts on the ng would be spared the misery of her attack. What I did not know was that Matooshka had blocked me from sending her e mail. Thus the war came out in public on the ng.

It didn't take long until she had made more than a few enemies. Each and every time that someone disagreed with her on this issue, she accused them of being me or one of my "cronies". Did I tell you that Matooshka refuses to believe that most people think for themselves?

To make a long story short, her campaign of hatred then became even more public as she started to post hate messages in other news groups. It escalated from there.

Now let's cover some of her claims. First, she claims that I have threatened her children and family. This is the largest lie of all. She did post on a news group one paragraph of a hateful e mail directed at her children that she *supposedly* received. in e mail. However, she conveniently refused to post the headers. Not only did I not have any part in that e mail, I don't believe it was real. Instead I believe that it was another ploy for sympathy on Matooshka's part. I feel sorry for the pitiful souls who chose to believe her when she said that it was I who sent it. What a coincidence it is that this post of hers came right on the heels of a post I had made about someone calling my home and telling me, "Watch your children when they walk to school. You wouldn't want anything happening to them." The funny part about her claim is that her defense for not posting the entire e mail was that she had contacted the F.B.I. (roflmao) and they had told her not to post the headers to the e mail. Then on another news group, she assured both myself and another woman that the F.B.I. would be knocking on our doors to investigate her claim within days. Need I tell you that the F.B.I. never showed up?

She then began a campaign of creating new screen names on AOL and creating identities of people who were supposedly "on her side". Quite frankly, this amused me. I felt I was quite capable of playing with this little fish on my own. I found no need to acquire followers, so why did she? At one point, one of her new screen names e mailed me with one of my previous addresses and said they would be "paying me a visit". Need I tell you that person never showed up?

Another claim of Matooshka's was that someone had attempted to forge posts in her name via deja news. Yes, this did happen. Did *I* do it? Nope.

She also states that someone opened up various free e mail accounts using her handle, "Barftooshie". Did that happen? You bet it did. Did I do it? Nope.

She also claims that *I* caused her last miscarriage. In fact, she sent me a long e mail telling me why *I* caused her baby to die. Do tell me why, if stress was a factor in a pregnancy, would anyone continue to read upsetting posts or participate in cyber wars? Okay, don't think about that for too long because a scatterbrained individual is one you'll never figure out. But... let me just tell you that within a few days of her accusing me of causing her to lose her baby, she had posted to three different news groups about the medical reasons that had caused her to miscarry. How can she blame me and then turn around and tell the whole world about the medical reasons behind her loss?

She then began doing really stupid things. Take for instance a post of mine in the pregnancy ng where someone was asking for "K" names. I replied to the poster and then told them that I liked "K" names so much that all three of my children's names had started with "K". She replied to my post asking me if there was "any particular reason why my kid's initials spelled out "KKK"?" Can you imagine the stupidity? Miss Brainiac then took that post and re posted it to the alt.skinheads news group. Unfortunately for her, even though she intended to cause me harm with that post, I received no replies. That was only one of my posts that she took to other news groups. She also posted a note of mine about headaches and headache medicines to: alt.evil, alt.psychotic.roomates, alt.bixsexual.lesbian, and, oh.. about 6 or 7 more. Did this hurt me? No. Did it ensure the "war" would continue? You bet it did.

Then there is the fact that this woman has *no* idea what real harassment or stalking really is. Several of my posts which were just rude at best, she turned in to AOL claiming harassment. Needless to say, I didn't received ANY warnings from AOL. I guess that pretty much sums up how harassing my words were ~ NOT. I pity Matooshka because one day she is going to irritate the wrong person and then she may find out the true meaning of the word "stalker".

Another one of her claims is that I was the owner of the "Satan's Dacha" site. I was never the owner but gee.. I had great fun contributing to the content. It really infuriated Matooshka that Angelfire wouldn't take that site down. It was a riot when they voluntarily moved it (to this day it is still on Angelfire). She took over the old url quickly and began making a fool of herself claiming that someone "unknown" to her had started the page up again. Now tell me, WHO is stupid enough to fall for that? Who in their right mind would voluntarily jump into the middle of this cat fight?

Another one of Matooshka's tricks is using people to further her campaign of hate. Take for instance the down syndrome news group. I am the owner of a support site for parents who have terminated wanted pregnancies due to poor prenatal diagnosis. The site doesn't applaud abortion, it simply provides support to parents who have already made that heartbreaking choice. Pity-me-Matooshka decided one day that she would get herself a new screen name and go to the down syndrome news group (where parents are living with their children who have down syndrome) and complain about the "depressing web site" she had found. Needless to say, many parents visited the site and were hurt. She then began replying to her own ID. Mysteriously, the original screen name that made the post never came back to say another word. What a coincidence!

Then, for Christmas of 1997 she sent me a "lovely" Christmas letter from my Daughter who is in heaven:

Dear Mommy,

I feel funny calling you that----"Mommy". I know you throw kisses to me in heaven and you hang up Angel ornaments each Christmas for me, but did you really love me? I don't think so. I think you just wanted to get me "over with" so you could go on with your life. That's how it feels to me anyway.

Mommy, why couldn't you just let me spend more time inside of you? Was I that horrible to you? Don't you think it hurt me a lot when you had me killed? Well, it did!

Do you feel a lot of guilt? You talk about me an awful lot, but you hardly ever talk to people about my brothers and sister. Why? Does your guilt make you do that? Is it because you feel guilty for murdering me, but not for my brothers and sister since they are still alive?

I'm in heaven, Mommy. I'm okay. But you sent me here before God wanted me to come, and that makes you feel bad. It should make you feel bad. It makes me feel bad.

Don't send me anymore kisses to heaven, Mommy. I don't want them from you.

Your daughter, Kaleigh

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There is so much more..... but for now, this is all I have the stomach to tell you. I will update in the future.

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The woman is seriously sick! -- 'nother DB hanger-on, 16:14:45 09/15/00 Fri
Umm... who are you? (NT) -- Laura Gay, 19:03:22 09/15/00 Fri