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Subject: Re: Phasers vs. Blasters


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BabyBel
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Date Posted: 17:37:34 09/01/02 Sun
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In reply to: capn hayes 's message, "Re: Phasers vs. Blasters" on 23:38:20 08/31/02 Sat


>What about the torpedo fired from enterprise at the
>planet in ST:V it didn't have the multi-megaton yeild
>one would expect.

Don't forget, before ordering the torpedo attack Kirk gave Enterprise specific orders that we are not aware of from just the film - such as "dudes, don't blow me up, I'm too beautiful to die". I believe this is even confirmed in the novellisation of the film.


And why did it take two rifles and
>one hand phaser to open knock out a cave wall in ST:IX
>insurection.

"power levels". They didn't want to collapse the whole mountain, did they?

>>Phasers are more powerful.

>Not at maximum power.

Like-for-like, yes they are. Of course, if you want to stack the deck and compare a hand phaser with neavy artillery, you are probably right.

The
>only thing that makes phasers more powerful is, wide
>angle setting,

that(and your other example) doesn't make them more powerful, it makes them more adaptable.

I've given you evidence that when comparing like-for-like phasers have more power than blasters. Phasers are about 1MJ/s. Blaster pistols are a few kJ, blaster rifles a hundred kJ or so. The only thing that comes close to the raw power of phasers are heavy repeating blasters, which we currently have no like-for-like comparison of.


>Really then explain why a shuttle could only manage
>to blow up the trailer of a semi in an episode of
>Voyager.

This would be Future's End, when Chakotay was going to rescue Paris and Belanna, yes? When the shuttle blew the cab (not the trailer) to bits with a blast lasting a fraction of a second, vaporisingmost of it?

What more do you need? They accomplished the job.

>and Tom Paris could only manage to create a lot of
>sparks on the back of the truck, when he was
>desperately trying to stop it.

"power levels" - why should a hand phaser rated at 1MW firing a blast lasting a fraction of a second vape the entire truck?

All he could seem to do
>is cower when it turned around and came back to run
>him and that girl down.

He didn't need to do anything - the shuttle came and blew it up. Even if he had time to vaporise the cab of the truck he would have had to deal with the trailer rushing up to greet them.

Is any of this intended to change the canon power of phasers, or are you trying to draw attention away from the fact that I have proven phasers are more powerful than blasters by complaining phasers aren't as effective as you think they should be?


If it were me I'd have used
>the phaser in my hand and set it on full poweer (like
>our little puny redshirted trekkies suggest phasers
>can do) and melted the fucker down to a pool of molten
>goo,

Like they did to the pickup at the begining of part 2, you mean? Only it wasn't a pile of molten goo - it was entirely gone.

What does this have to do with the fact that the canon power of a phaser is higher than that of a blaster, anyway? This is entirely irrelevant to the discussion.

>Instead it took a shuttle to knock out the truck with
>no more firepower than an M1 tank, and here I thought
>than type IV phasers were way more powerful than a
>mere hand phaser. If that is true then phasers aren't
>anymore powerful that blasters that can takeout a
>Sandcrawler ran by a band of marauding Jawas.

The attack on the Jawa sandcrawler was dealt with in the long post you just quoted in its entirety to add half a dozen lines of useless text. So was all the evidence the shows phasers are more powerful than blasters.

Note I
>used cannon examples to explain my point not TM's.

note the only use of TMs was information about phasers given in a canon episode. Note your point has not once touched upon the demonstrated fact that phasers are more powerful than blasters(both canon phaser power vs stated EU blaster power, and canon phaser power vs canon demonstrated blaster powe, like for like), and deals instead with how phasers don't act as you think they should act, or as your phantom trekkies have previously claimed.

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