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Date Posted: 19:05:04 02/20/06 Mon
Subject: Kennel clubs
Okay we are on the topic of registeries. Hum well from my personal experiance with the Ckc Canadian Kennel Club. They have some eithic's which need to be revised. Okay we all know that any dog can be bred together right. Well when a dog is interbred it should be refused registry. Don't ya think. I do. So we had a female german import bred shepherd and a freind of mine had a male gsd. I left my dog with her for a few days and my instructions were as such. DO NOT BRED MY DOG TO YOURS.Well no sooner did I return home to find out that this so called freind bred her dog to mine. I asked to see a pedigree. she did not have one. so I instructed her to get one. well with all said and done this male would be inter bred father daughter. This totally sickened me.My well bred dog was about to have some mutt puppies. Sure they were out of purebred stock but that is not they way I chose to breed. I contacted the Ckc and sked if they new what they were doing. when registering an inter bred dog? They told me they do not care as long as they parents are registered.
Okay now two months later our dog has pups. Go figure her first litter would have one pup less an ear one pup paralised from the neck dosn should I continue? Now we re talking about one registery being better than the other. How do you come to these terms? So what I am getting at we all think the Ckc is the best right. Well they are not!!! If they represent themselves as a quality service then they should have individuals on the look out for these unethical types of breeding.But waht I got ws We don't care as long as the parents are registered. I even went back to the origanal breeder of this dog. You know wht she told me? THAT DOG WAS NOT TO BE BRED!!!! HE WAS TO BE FIXED. So my attidtude is this before we start saying on registeries is better than the other. get your facts straight.
Then they place a limited or non breeders stamp on the papers. Well does that stop people from breeding? Nope again. We just end up with a whole lot of unwanted dogs again. So now we blame the back yard breeder and the puppy mills. Well guess what my trainer told me many moons ago. What is a dog breeder? Answer: some one who put to dogs together and got lucky the first time. So then they tryed and tryed again. So yes no matter which way we go. This person is against that person and this breeder is jeolous of that breeder. Now we have a confliction on Dog and cat registeries. Whats next. All I can say get along!! So the other registeries feel that they are offering a service who cares go nuts. It all in the game of love and war.
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Re: Kennel clubs -- pam, 05:39:34 03/16/06 Thu
Why do you want the kennel club to be the police of your or someone else's ethics? If you can't be responsible enough to alter your dogs or put them in situations where they for sure won't be bred, that is a problem with you. Maybe you sholdn't be owning a dog if you can't be more responsible than that but it isn't the registry's responsbility to see to it that you aren't irresponsible. Inbreeding is a well known and if knowledgeably done, a very useful breeding strategy. Why would they not register a litter that was knowledgeably bred? People can totally outcross and come up with just as many or more issues than if they stupidly inbred so a registry can't regulate stupidity or you and a lot of people would have unregistered dogs. If you didn't want that litter registered, then you shouldn't have registered it.
As far as one registry being 'better' than another, that again shows your ignorance. ConKC and some of the other pseudo-registries are just con games to put papers on dogs regardless of heritage. Responsible registries keep record of ancestors and validate the purity of a line, that it is purebred. The con registries simply take money and give papers to anything and people are stupid enough to think it means something. Yes, registry with a legitimate registry means something - that the dog has a record of the purity behind it and a way to know the genetic characteristics behind it, but that is when utilized by someone that knows what they are doing and not just someone that puts two dogs together. Your trainer obviously doesn't know much since there is a whole lot more to a breeder than he lead you to believe. Maybe that is the type of breeder he and you are used to - too bad you have only known crappy breeders and not responsible, knowledgeable ones. Expand your horizons and actually learn about them and maybe you won't keep having 'accidents'.
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