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Subject: Engans need to lift their game Author: Mangi nating [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Sat, Apr 28 2007, 06:38:07am I graduated from UPNG in the 1970s and spent many of my years in public service in Moresby and Wabag. I know Enga. I know my people. But I am ashamed to state that Engans are not reaching their abilities. Reading these forums gives me the idea that Engans do not know how to write English, formulate debate, argue topics; Engans generally purport their proposals in child-like sentence structure and inappropriate spelling. It pains me to write that I am ashamed of Engans and their pathetic introverted world. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Engans need to lift their game Author: Please Clarify [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sat, Apr 28 2007, 10:23:54am Can you please clarify or define what you are exactly trying to say to the many engans who are on this forum? If I read you correctly, you're suggesting we write or prepare proper documentation before going public, proposing anything, or post in here, to show our intelligence and professionalism as many portray us? One thing I know for sure, this forum is literally a public and informative "forum" and that means there is no structured protocol as to how one can document their thoughts, feelings, etc.. Unless we're tasked and compensated in a structured and proper manner, no one really has the time to sit back and review what they put together before publishing in here. Just my thoughts.. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Engans need to lift their game Author: Kaim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sat, Apr 28 2007, 11:58:37am It pains me to write that I am ashamed of Engans and their pathetic introverted world What a hypothetical, overly stereotypical and preempted slur! Hear this straight out from proud PNGean Engan . Engans do NOT necessarily rely on the opinions of others to make their cut/mark in whatever field they in. Your view unfortunately reeks of a truncated view from an unpopular league that thinks they can succeed to suppress the innate intelligence and emergence of Engans in all facets of life. The view only depicts of a slanted prejudice crowd that have no in-deepth knowledge of how caring and genuine Engans are. Proud Engan PNGean [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Engans need to lift their game Author: Kaim [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sat, Apr 28 2007, 12:02:13pm It pains me to write that I am ashamed of Engans and their pathetic introverted world ” What a hypothetical, overly stereotypical and preempted slur! Hear this straight out from a proud PNGean Engan. Engans do NOT necessarily rely on the opinions of others to make their cut/mark in whatever field they're in. Your view unfortunately reeks of a truncated view from an unpopular league that thinks they can succeed to suppress the innate intelligence and emergence of Engans in all facets of life. Lift the standard to whose faultless standard, I ask? Proud Engan PNGean [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Engans need to lift their game Author: 61 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sat, Apr 28 2007, 03:05:35pm If that is your shallow view of Enga's intellects than I must say 'you ain't seen nothing yet'..... A few grammatical errors here and there on this forum by some writers is not representative of the entire intelligence and knowledge pool of Enga. I'd advise you to really visit Enga again and get to know my place. 61 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Engans need to lift their game Author: non Engan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2007, 05:29:19pm I think Engans are doing very well within PNG around the globe. Evan Paki is one person that springs to mind. Everyone makes errors at forums, this is nothing bad or something to be ashamed of. peace [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Engans need to lift their game Author: non Engan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2007, 05:30:54pm opppsss....there u go, an error in my posting, my bad, "I didn't check my writing.... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Evan Paki, an Engan to be proud of Author: Henry [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tue, Oct 21 2008, 03:28:52am On the 15 of October the Taiwan Government has (through its court system) received a sworn statement bearing the receipients of the K60 million Taiwanese bribe money are; 1 - Paul Tiensten 2 - Arthur Somare 3 - Timothy Bonga 4 - Roy Biyama 5 - EVAN PAKI 6 - Florian Gubon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Evan Paki, an Engan to be proud of Author: larsen [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tue, Oct 21 2008, 10:39:06am Are we confirm that these are some of the individuals who benefited financially and/or in-kinds in this negotiation which was under the Late Skate Government? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Evan Paki, con man in training Author: Henry [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tue, Oct 21 2008, 03:37:01am It was a kickback scam and Mr Paki's shame is forever engraved in the internet................. US deal backfires By YEHIURA HRIEHWAZI THE government is faced with a K200 million lawsuit in the United States over non-settlement of consultancy fees to a US citizen. Documents obtained by The National from Foreign Affairs and the Prime Minister’s departments revealed that a Michael Z Mathew Esq. was given a “cabinet-approved mandate” to be PNG’s “sole and exclusive” representative in North America. Under the arrangement, Mathews was supposed to be paid certain commissions for work undertaken for PNG. His original bill of US$8 million (K30 million) last year was considered “too high” by the Treasury Department and his lawyers are planning to take the matter to the American Arbitration Tribunal to settle for an “amount not less than US$50 million (K200 million)”. The mandate to Mathews was granted on Nov 11, 2002, and then renewed on April 1, 2003 and “thereafter revised, updated and extended to Dec 31, 2010,” according the documents. Mathews’ lawyers based in New York, Maidman and Mittelman have written to Prime Minister Sir Michael Somare putting the state on notice of the lawsuit. The letter, written by lawyer Stuart Jackson, was delivered to the PNG Embassy in Washington. PNG Ambassador Evan Paki had written a letter on April 9, marked “urgent matter, confidential and sensitive” to Treasury secretary Simon Tosali seeking immediate settlement of the K30-million claim. Mr Paki also sent copies of his letter to chief secretary Joshua Kalinoe, Foreign secretary Gabriel Pepson and acting Finance secretary Gabriel Yer. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Evan Paki, con man in training Author: larsen [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tue, Oct 21 2008, 10:59:42am Messer Ivan Paki attempted to negotiate financing arrangements in the American continent for the Somare Government to fund the financial crisis in the country in 2002-4. I presume he acted under the Government's instruction since he brought the financiers and the chief negotiator into the country. Then Minister Bart Philemon was not happy will the financing arrangements and thus, the financing arrangemnts were not executed. The government also negotiate about PGK300.00 million loan from the ADB during the same period and thus, Minister Philemon decided to preferr it. However, this arrangement did not materilize as well. Fortunately, the mineral amd petorleum sectors rescued the country from its financial crisis. Prudent fiscal management was sound that time too. The point is that Messer Evan Paki is an exceptional engan learned man and as a diplomat did fine to undertake such Government's negotiation with much confidence. [I would be quite surprised if he had attempted to undertake the negotiation under the pretext to benefit from them in breach of existing regulations of PNG.] [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Evan Paki, con man in training Author: Exceptionally stupid strategy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wed, Nov 12 2008, 10:19:11am This method of finding money for PNG shows a lack of maturity. Its not the way governments operate to borrow money through individuals. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Engans need to lift their game Author: Wanaku [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Fri, Nov 07 2008, 06:09:10pm How dare you Henry? How dare you condem or even have the audacity to stigamitize Mr. Paki with the title "Con Man"...do you even understand or know for that matter what a con-man is? If you did, you would know Mr. Paki comes no where near its definition. Where in YEHIURA HRIEHWAZI report did it state that Amb. Paki was resposible for under the table dealings (as this is what a con-man would do)? The article simply states that once again someone else has to clean up the mess that PM's make... So here is loyal man who serves his country day in and day out (and does a DAMN good job of it) who still gets slandered because of ignorants like you who are qucik to point fingers yet failed to get an Harvard Degree and serve his country in America. Until you hold office and fix the mess others have left behind for you...can you have the RIGHT to call Mr. Paki a con-man....I am appalled!!!!!!!!!!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Engans need to lift their game Author: West [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tue, Oct 21 2008, 11:37:33am Every allegation has an element of truth in it and that is a unwritten law even if proven innocent in the courts. Many of the so called Enga "save man" are crooks in my view. Couple of them allegedly received dubious payments from NPF, some from the finance department, some from con litigations, some through false claims, some straight from the public purse....I don't want to mention their names as it disgusts me. What is even worse is, these people are some of the most committed church goes I have seen in all of Enga. Kisim save long kamap stilman. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Engans need to lift their game Author: larsen [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tue, Oct 21 2008, 02:01:56pm "Every allegation has an element of truth in it and that is a unwritten law even if proven innocent in the courts." I would rather prefer commercial writing on this notion than being over myself on such issues. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Every allegation has an element of truth in it Author: drifter [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wed, Nov 12 2008, 11:06:12am You are so so right. Especially the stories we hear in PNG. There is always an element of truth to all the money stealing stories and it is totally true that Peter Ipatas is dying of AIDS. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]