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Subject: Re: Don Polye's Form of macroeconomics in Kandep


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Date Posted: Wed, Jan 24 2007, 09:59:05pm
In reply to: By stander 's message, "Re: Don Polye's Form of macroeconomics in Kandep" on Wed, Jan 24 2007, 06:30:09pm

No, I think Cool Guy has a point! It's better for one educated Engan to take the bribe, then for a dozen die hard primitives prepared to resort to violence and coersion. Either way, the money belongs to the people ultimately. Nevertheless, it can never be taken as an excuse for the MP's failure to perform within the allocated 5 year term.

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Date Posted: Wed, Jan 24 2007, 11:25:24pm

Why take the money in the name of "people's money"? Don't you think this is 'soft bribery'? You don't have to reason it out to say this is people's money. This is simple logic and decietful. Don't you think it affect the conscience of the person who takes it? If you don't have conscience then you don't have guilt. Well, you may argue saying this is not stealing, but remember, 'receiving people's money this way is participating in theft indirectly', isn't it. Best way is not to take it at all.

Why not you as an educated TELL your "die hard primitive people not to take it, even if they resolve to it? I don't see the logic here.

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Date Posted: Fri, Jan 26 2007, 12:25:55am

Bystander, you might never be able to comprehend what "natural" justice is to the Engan perception. [I, as a single soul in all my social limitations can never cause a change of mentality because a villager's monetary need tends to supercede all forms of opposing rationale.] Now I agree with you that a white lie should never be accepted and neither a "soft bribe" at that. But unless somebody legitimate from within the electorate accepts that token of money, than goodness knows where else the money would most likely accumulate (in a concealed IBD account perhaps). This matter raises a serious ethical question that has no valid answer because it varies depending on your perspective (i.e. educated elite, grassroot, village leader, common villager, etc.). Who is most deserving? No one, but collectly, we all deserve the lump sum in equal proportions but it is rather impossible to distribute fairly! Instead we the public should demand utilities and physical infrastructures that will benefit everyone (both users and freeriders).

Unfortunately, we can NEVER unwind the last 5 years so that the failed politician may re-attempt to prove himself! Forgive me for my bluntness (though it hurts), but its better to give to the few "selected" poor than for the MP to keep everything for himself. Isn't this what defines the politics of the undeveloped world and of the "natural flow" of resources from the haves to the have-nots?! Elected representatives at the national, provincial and local level government tend to concentrate resources in areas affilated to their base of support (i.e. votes). Last minute cash handouts are no different.

I totally detest this idea of bribery in all forms, but if that's the game Mr. Yarka is going to play, then good luck to him! BECAUSE HE'LL DEFINATELY NEED IT, IF HE'S WORTHY ENOUGH! Cool_Guy1 has exposed the realities of Kappa Yarka's decieving tactics and you can be sure those mindless "primitives" who accept his 2 Kinas will be on hand to orchestrate the elections, though futile their efforts will be. At the end of the day, it's the village leaders and their people who will decide. Regardless of how much money is circulated in the small confines of an electorate, Mr. Yarka can rest assured that his reputation is accounted for and his days numbered! The villagers know who's who and they will ultimately decide for that at the polls. All we can do is wait and pray that God grants us True Leaders who are indiscriminate in terms of providing services that will benefit the masses!

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